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I was wondering, in the CU tests, where does the "Domestic Arts' food get it's point from.
Chef or Artisan?
If it comes form Artisan, then a lot of Chefs will have a BIG problem with supplying about half the food/drink that will be wanted (& probably needed) to make. Here's some stats I came up with after studying posts from ppl playing on the TC (Thanks for all the info guys ):


Name___________ Type_____ Effect____ regen.____ Duration____ Filling

Bofa Treat______ F_______ None______ 84-114____ 40-57.5m____ 11-11 (Health)
Kanali Wafers___ F______ 83-108_____ [100]______ 42-61m_____ 16=16 (Health)
Teltier Noodles_ F_______ 79-95_____ None_______ 42-61m_____ 13-16 (Health)
Teltier Noodles_ F_______ None______ [100]______ 42-61m______ N/A_ (Action)
Blob Candy______ F_______ None______ 81-103____ 40-57.5m_____ 8-11 (Action)

Caf_____________ D______ 86-116_____ None______ 40.5-57m____ 16-16 (Health)
Caf____________ D_______ None______ [100]_____ 40.5-57m_____ N/A_ (Mind)
Spiced Tea______ D_______ None______ 83-109____ 42-61m_______ 7-9_ (Mind)

------(Figuring24% base stats.Max stats 94%+ duration experiment maxed, then power)------
Totals
______ Health___________ 261-263_____ 198______ 54-57.______ 53/24 Fill
______ Action____________ None_______ 186______ 54-57.5m______ N/A
______ Mind______________ None_______ 189______ 54-57.5m______ N/A

Totals (with 56% Bio-Nutrient)
______ Health___________ 407-410_____ 298______ 54-57.5m____ 53/24 Fill
______ Action____________ None_______ 292______ 54-57.5m_______ N/A
______ Mind______________ None_______ 296______ 54-57.5m_______ N/A
(add 20-27 Heath on non-Bio & 31-37 for Bio if Caf experiment reports r right)
Resources needed:
5 berries
10 wheat** for Dough
20 fruit (berries, fruit, or flower)
20 vegetables (beans, green, tubers, or fungi)
15 water
40 hide
14 cereal (oats, rice, wheat, or corn, wild or domestic)
12 Flora food** for Carbosyrup
8 Organic

2 containers**
(10 gems**, 100 gems**, or 150 Crystalline Gems** & 2 identical "Trim"**)
** any quality works

So, after using these 6 items, a player can go out with buffs.
And after 16 min (7 1/2 min for drink), their stomachs are empty, but they still have 27-30 min left on their buffs (to use true Chef items to enhance buffs when needed)..

In pre-CU, this wouldn't be a problem. But they have dropped down our Buff food times by up to 1/3th & drink times by up to 1/6th & only giving us a little less fill rate! This means almost going back to the 2003 chef status for our Buff foods/drinks.

This is just the HAM buffs. There also Crispic (Melee/ranged accuracy with duration 10-30 time longer than the Chefs equivalent). & the others others that have little change (but may be needed with the CU).
My main point here is that all the work (& credits) great Chefs have put in grinding master, collecting good resources, buying the tapes & cloths it takes to get +120 experimentation, & maybe even getting Force experiment (like me), can be undermined by a Noob Human with 2200 Artisan, a friend with good resources, & a Bip-Engineer contact..

And if Artisan pts. are used for the Domestic stuff. it also means:
1. You have to us 14 more skill pts. to get +10 (unless u already have the Engineering tree)
2. All non-human Chef loose out on an extra experiment pt.
3. You may have to find/buy +10 to +20 artisan experiment CAs/Clothing to get the bonuses U should get from your Chef clothing (at a pretty high price on some servers).

Sorry this post is sooooooo long (& a little whiny), but this CU change has been bugging me (Just more than all the other "nerfs" they are doing to Chef & most other classes ) & wanted to get some info on it.

Message Edited by Elven_Duke on 04-23-2005 08:45 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't bofa treats, kanali wafers, and a few other things "creature only"?

If they are for players only, then it would be too easy to pump your stats up with low filling and cheap prices, before and after the CU.

Blap biscuit, Felbar, Pastebread, & Sweesonberry rolls are the Creature foods (all of them being in the Chef prof).

And the reason people don't use much of the "Domestic" foods now is because:
1. They buff only 1 stat.
2. Buffs range from about +40 to +90 with about the same duration (30-60 min with some lower & a few higher) & about the same Fill.
3. Chef foods can last about 3/4 as long with 4x the Buff and/or muliple stat buffs (Vasarian Brandy is a great example)
4. They still use up some nice resouces that can be used in other Chef foods/drinks.
5. They are pretty useless right now because of the Doctor & Entertainer buffs.

So, right now (b4 CU) the Domestic foods/drinks are just a waste of stomach filling & inventory space.
After the CU is a different matter (with buffs & CHef items being severly powered down & the removal of 3 stats in HAM).

Hope that answered you question

Now, if I can only get an answer from someone about my original question. lol.

Thanks for the info sciguyCO! I really appriciate it.

Hope they put in the Race Respec they have been talking about.