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Thread: Price on brandy
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keybladebearer
Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:01 am
#1
Ok I made some of my best Brandy yet. It is still being worked on but I think it's sellable so I'm looking for a price.
+420
36 minutes
50 filling
18 uses
Somebody told me 100k and somebody else told me 150k
I am not looking too over charge anybody, but I am looking too make a little something off each crate.
Would 125k be fair and would you pay that price?
MaliaMing
Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:12 am
#2
It really depends on the economics of your server. My base brandy is +430/45m/49f/21 uses and I sell it at 150k per crate. Granted, I can't keep it stocked for more than 2 days, but my prices are pretty much in line with the other chefs selling similar products.
The +420 is nice. The 36 minutes is, well, a little short. People won't be able to drink 2 right away when their stomach empties at the 45 minute marker, but they can always drink one when there's enough room and then throw in another one later. I'd price that at around 100k and if it sells too quickly for your liking, you can increase the price incrementally until you find a happy medium. May I suggest bringing down the nutrition closer to 400 and adding more experimentation into duration for the next batch? The extra 20 points may not be a big deal, but 9 minutes of not being able to drink another brandy can be.
The +420 is nice. The 36 minutes is, well, a little short. People won't be able to drink 2 right away when their stomach empties at the 45 minute marker, but they can always drink one when there's enough room and then throw in another one later. I'd price that at around 100k and if it sells too quickly for your liking, you can increase the price incrementally until you find a happy medium. May I suggest bringing down the nutrition closer to 400 and adding more experimentation into duration for the next batch? The extra 20 points may not be a big deal, but 9 minutes of not being able to drink another brandy can be.
golfingtx
Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:52 am
#3
I agree, raise the time at the expense of 20 nutrition. You will have a better product that will sell nicely. My brandy is around the following on Radiant server:
+420/ 45m30s / 48 / 21
and I also make variations such as
+364 / 53m30s / 49 / 21
+416 / 47m / 48 / 21
I sell them for 125k a crate.
Slingblade
Proud (+20 Experiment / +25 Assembly) Master Chef
Slingblade Sales 50, -5480 Coronet
fish_chef
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:42 am
#4
Slingblade, just out of curiosity what do BE adds run on your server. at 125K a crate you must be doing mass volumes to keep stock or have an oversaturation ofhigh quality brandyon your server. I just don't see how you can keep up the supply unless you had a massive stockpile of meat or additives.
Kryxal
Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:33 am
#5
On Radiant, they don't sell too well for me, and that's at 30k for +85 ... in fact, they hardly sell at all. You'd think people might try to buy them off a vendor named "Kryxal's BE supplies". Oh well, I've dropped it now, I just have a number of schematics and some resources to be rid of...
I_Zombi
Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:39 am
#6
Whitejello... I bow to your sig.Even though I may be going to hell for doing so.
If I were the original poster, I'd get the highest power brandy possible with 45m duration and sell it for 100k per crate. Just make sure you keep trying on the schematic until all the points you put into nutrition hit an amazing success. Ideally you actually wanna hold out until you get amazing success on all exp pts but it may be tough without a research center and a +20 exp suit.
Message Edited by I_Zombi on 02-01-2005 11:41 AM
Carpeia
Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:08 pm
#7
Mine on eclipse is
+417 for 49 mins 49 filling 21 uses
i sell that one for 179k a crate, and having problems with stocks.
Also made some 439 for 46 mins 49 filling 21 uses.
Dont stock it tho.
fish_chef
Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:30 am
#8
Aye my good friend, why are you going to hell? That is an actual quote from someone on our server. I thought it was funny as heck.
Stainlesss
Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:30 am
#9
Wanderhome
I sell +426 46m30s 49fill 18q at 125k
Think we are a fairly cheap server.
golfingtx
Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:05 am
#10
fish_chef wrote:
Slingblade, just out of curiosity what do BE adds run on your server. at 125K a crate you must be doing mass volumes to keep stock or have an oversaturation ofhigh quality brandyon your server. I just don't see how you can keep up the supply unless you had a massive stockpile of meat or additives.
I have an alt that is Bio Engineer so never had to buy them myself. I buy the resources in bulk from my Rangers whenever there is a good spawn and then craft away. I never use below 86's on the tissues and yes, I have to craft continuously to keep my vendor stocked on Brandy. Good thing going for me is I sell so many different foods and drinks, people tend to only buy 1 or 2 crates of it at a time so that they canbuy my Pikatta Pie or Ahrisa as well and I can make them 40 crates at a time. Helps slow down the grind.
Also comes down to availablility of resources. Radiant hasn't seen an uber spawn of any flora in quite a while especially fruits or berries. The one everyone is using right now has 3 stats in the 800's and one 900 (Cire). Not the greatest around I would think considering some of the stats of brandy on other servers.
Slingblade
Proud (+20 Experiment / +25 Assembly) Master Chef
Slingblade Sales 50, -5480 Coronet
Message Edited by golfingtx on 02-03-2005 08:09 AM
xDiggerx
Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:51 pm
#11
Well, the other fact is that Slingblade is just killer on his prices! 
As another chef on Radiant I don't even want to begin going head to head with him. He has a very complete menu, keeps his vendor well stocked, and makes some very good foods. He has to be fully vertically integrated (Ranger supply of meat/BE/Chef) in order to run the prices he does. At $125K for good Brandy, with BE costs, casks, etc... I don't see a lot of markup there.
I make pretty good Brandy on Radiant. +427 for 44m 30s, 49 fill, 21 uses. But I don't want to spend all my gaming time crafting. So I price my Brandy on the high end and while I still sell a fair amount I don't sell out in 2 days and then have to craft another 20 crates (full run). One complaint I have with Brandy, needed the 2 alcohols, is that each full run can only be 20 crates, unlike 40 for many of my faster selling well used foods (like Ahrisa, Bivoli, etc..).
Not having a BE character you can expect to pay $40K-$45K even in volume for +87's on Radiant. I won't use anything less in my foods than 57's, 87's, 117's. So of course I need to pay more. I was a BE once and I know these require some pretty good meat and flora to craft.
I am curious when we get the combat revamp, if in fact folks won't be able to go out and solo critters like Rancors, just what is going to happen to meat prices. On Radiant for really good meat, even with solo'ing possible now, you can easily pay 25 cpu or higher for the good stuff. 30 and 40 cpu is not unheard of. Start adding that all up and suddenly $125K for a crate ofhighinput resourcefood is not much over costs (assuming your buying your inputs).
I figure on most of our servers there are plenty of players to go around....no one chef or one anything in any profession should be able to keep up with everyone. So, enough business gets spread around. The fact is if you don't sell your items, like my chef food, I have to lower price....and at some point if the price gets too low to move an item, I am better off selling those resources outright, say to other chef's like SlingBlade who can sell cheap, than to try and compete and make my own. It's not a whole lot unlike the real world which if our economy is working correctly is how it should be.
NeocronztheChef
Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:35 am
#13
i make 429/45 minutes/21 uses/49 filling and sell at 120k per crate, i also made some 433/45/21/49 and sell that at 130k, don't sell much of it, but i don't really advertise my vender, so it takes like 5 days to sell out.
Edit: the 429 is using +85s and the 433 is using +87s
Edit: the 429 is using +85s and the 433 is using +87s
Message Edited by NeocronztheChef on 02-04-2005 02:39 AM
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