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Thread: No +counterattack food?
MasterSad wrote:
Subj... not good...
Yeah, what about us Carbineers? All we want is our fare share!
Guys, there's no dodge food either. Yes, yes, I know what pikatta/air/cake/fizz pudding say, but in reality they provide a melee/ranged defense boost to everybody. So, if you carbineers want a defense food, go ahead and eat that.
Ankor wrote:
sciguy, can we please get one of these stickied or added to the FAQ or something?
Guys, there's no dodge food either. Yes, yes, I know what pikatta/air/cake/fizz pudding say, but in reality they provide a melee/ranged defense boost to everybody. So, if you carbineers want a defense food, go ahead and eat that.
I didn't notice any dodging when eating those and holding a carbine.
Kraftomatic wrote:there are plenty of foods for dodge, the only defense that works rofl
Counterattack not working as it should is an issue as old as this game is, at least incresing effectiveness of what we have would be nice.
MasterSad wrote:
I didn't notice any dodging when eating those and holding a carbine.
Ankor wrote:
sciguy, can we please get one of these stickied or added to the FAQ or something?
Guys, there's no dodge food either. Yes, yes, I know what pikatta/air/cake/fizz pudding say, but in reality they provide a melee/ranged defense boost to everybody. So, if you carbineers want a defense food, go ahead and eat that.
I'm working on putting together some new sticky threads (the stuff listed in the "forum revamp" post I made last week), and I'll make sure this is in one of them.
The "dodge" foodsare just a base defense bonus. You won't see "so-and-so attacks you but you evade" (the combat message fencers and pistoleers get when they dodge), just more "so-and-so attacks you but misses".
So the only "evasion" skill that foods can buff is block for....swordsman and rifles? I can never remember...
sciguyCO wrote:
MasterSad wrote:I didn't notice any dodging when eating those and holding a carbine.
Ankor wrote:
sciguy, can we please get one of these stickied or added to the FAQ or something?
Guys, there's no dodge food either. Yes, yes, I know what pikatta/air/cake/fizz pudding say, but in reality they provide a melee/ranged defense boost to everybody. So, if you carbineers want a defense food, go ahead and eat that.I'm working on putting together some new sticky threads (the stuff listed in the "forum revamp" post I made last week), and I'll make sure this is in one of them.
The "dodge" foodsare just a base defense bonus. You won't see "so-and-so attacks you but you evade" (the combat message fencers and pistoleers get when they dodge), just more "so-and-so attacks you but misses".
So the only "evasion" skill that foods can buff is block for....swordsman and rifles? I can never remember...
I do not agree. I've eaten the dodge food and my pvp opponent was not missing much (however my basic defence might be not enought even to make the food effective) while I was holding carbine. HOwever more testing is needed on this matter.
Message Edited by MasterSad on 09-26-2004 01:43 AM
MasterSad wrote:
sciguyCO wrote:
MasterSad wrote:
I didn't notice any dodging when eating those and holding a carbine.
Ankor wrote:
sciguy, can we please get one of these stickied or added to the FAQ or something?
Guys, there's no dodge food either. Yes, yes, I know what pikatta/air/cake/fizz pudding say, but in reality they provide a melee/ranged defense boost to everybody. So, if you carbineers want a defense food, go ahead and eat that.
I'm working on putting together some new sticky threads (the stuff listed in the "forum revamp" post I made last week), and I'll make sure this is in one of them.
The "dodge" foodsare just a base defense bonus. You won't see "so-and-so attacks you but you evade" (the combat message fencers and pistoleers get when they dodge), just more "so-and-so attacks you but misses".
So the only "evasion" skill that foods can buff is block for....swordsman and rifles? I can never remember...
I do not agree. I've eaten the dodge food and my pvp opponent was not missing much (however my basic defence might be not enought even to make the food effective) while I was holding carbine. HOwever more testing is needed on this matter.
Message Edited by MasterSad on 09-26-2004 01:43 AM
Agree or not thats how the foods works
and you can't see what your basic dodge skill is because it's not listed.
MasterSad wrote:
From what I understand +dodge food works atm like +melee defence and +range defence. Can you clarify this (may be with devs first)? Because there is no such thing as basic defence, there is always defence vs something. Is it ranged defence is it melee defence or is it all-in-one defence?
It works as a boost to ranged and melee defense. Both the food's text and anecodtal testing suggest that the bonus is a percentage of your current defenses... so a guy with 100+ melee D would notice a marked improvement when using Pikata (as I do), while someone with low defenses wouldn't get much benefit at all.
We've had this thread several times, and the general conversation goes like this: people with low defense templates (pikemen, carbineers, BHs...) claim this food is broken and doesn't do anything, while those with high defenses say it's awesome and they can't understand why anyone could think it was broken. These "high defense" testimonials aren't all from fencers, which pretty much debunks the suggestion that the food provides a bonus to the actual dodge skill. My personal experience is that my Jedi (114 melee D) would be up a creek without Pikata.