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Thread: Havla

vortexala
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:24 pm
#1

The thing is with CMs throwing poisons/diseases, we are rooted to the ground for the entirety of the throw animation, which may be anywhere from 3-5 seconds(perhaps more). So that timeframe would be our 'speed-cap'.

In other words, unless I'm gravely mistaken, there is no way for a CM to throw poisons/disease every second without somehow circumventing the throw animation.



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BristaAB
Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:38 pm
#2

You are both saying different things


This requires a little testing if one of you or some other CM would be so kind


Havla


1 dough, 30 tubers, 30 oats


Medium


Reduce Heal recovery 38-60


next 18-32 heals


It's in Entrees 3 and can be bio-enhanced with up to a medium additive so heal reduction time of over 100 should be possible on the BE stuff


It should be cumulative with skills tapes if there are any that enhance the skill. I've seen + ranged injury treatment speed ones and + wound treatment speed ones, not sure if either quite applies to poisons


I can probably assist with experiments on Chimaera if that suits anyone





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Kortelus
Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:08 pm
#3

I have tested it and if I am in a situation where I am throwing a disease and a poison on someone instead of the normal 3 seconds before throws with the Havla it is 1 sec. Barring the animation for I could throw all 9 stat diseases and 3 HAM poisons in no more than 20 seconds.




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Kortelus
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:28 am
#4

I believe it is Havla that reduces heal time for doctors and medics between heals. So if a doctor needs 10 seconds between heals normally with this it is 5. The stuff I used works for 1 hour or 19 uses, has about 30% filling so it can be used at least 3 time in a row if you use up 19 heals quickly.


The point of this post is that it effects CMs also. With this food instead of a 3 second delay between poisons I can throw every second. Go into battle and in theory I can throw about 60 poison/diseases in 2 minutes (considering lag).


Is this intended??? If not I would ask that you ask to get it fixed. CMs are considered overpowered as it is, this just over powers them more.



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BristaAB
Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:45 pm
#5

Wow


Good work and no doubt this was missed - and not intended by the Developers (as well as the Test Centre crowd)





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Bennyboy4308
Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:43 am
#6

I tested it and I didnt see a change. Still had to wait for the animation to finish. Might be useful for non-master CMs.



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ETHANSMITH
Mon May 10, 2004 7:16 am
#7

i tried havla to increase speed between hits of buffs but you can only buff 3 or 4 persons in 15 minutes so if someone has something better please tell me.lines are long !!!
glidingpiglet
Mon May 10, 2004 7:27 am
#8

Are you insane?


Time between wound heals, 16 secs


So lets round it up to 20, x 6 stats is 2 min for 1 person.


In 15 min you can buff at least 7, more likly 8 people.


USE A MACRO.


the command is /healenhance strengh or con or stamina.


Terrie.


Radar-X
Mon May 10, 2004 7:29 am
#9






ETHANSMITH wrote:

i tried havla to increase speed between hits of buffs but you can only buff 3 or 4 persons in 15 minutes so if someone has something better please tell me.lines are long !!!






I actually use a macro that buffs every 17 seconds (which is slow to alot of people). You should be buffing much faster.



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Travin64068
Mon May 10, 2004 7:38 am
#10






glidingpiglet wrote:

Are you insane?


Time between wound heals, 16 secs


So lets round it up to 20, x 6 stats is 2 min for 1 person.


In 15 min you can buff at least 7, more likly 8 people.


USE A MACRO.


the command is /healenhance strengh or con or stamina.


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ETHANSMITH
Mon May 10, 2004 8:01 am
#11

ok i can buff only 4 persons until i can take more havla you understand what i mean?


sorry i m french


ETHANSMITH
Mon May 10, 2004 8:11 am
#12

i mean that i have 24 hits so 24/6 enhances = 4 personns i can buff
Marrow1
Mon May 10, 2004 8:36 am
#13

I think folks are a bit confused (or mybe its just me).


1. Havla is a food that increases you wound treatment speed allowing for the doc to "speed buff". Basically you can buff in about the 3 sec range per stat. (the animation that goes with buffing limits the speed I believe).


2. You can buff about 3-4 full sets on one charge of the food. Food stats will vary.


3. The food is about 33% filling or more so you can only eat a few times before your full and have to buff without the enhancement. Food stats will vary.


4. Without Havla you can buff in about the 17 sec per statranges as a master doc without wound treatment speed tapes.


5. If you save 15 sec per stat that is 1.5 min per person. By using the food you can pump out about 10 more buffies in the same given time before you tummy is full. That means if your loosing customers due to the long line you can keep those customers by using this food. The investment in food can make you money if you use it at the right time.


6. The food is also fun to use when your buffing up your PvP group. Sucks for the doc since that is that much tummy they dont have to use on mind foods. However, it can really get your team back in the fight fast after cloning.


7. The only other buff speed item are skill tapes for wound treatment speed. You need a few of them before you will notice a change.


I hope this helps.









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