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Thread: CHef Concern? Possible reason to never use food again. Revamped Debuffs.

Opie76
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:16 pm
#1



Well if the chefs have not been paying attention to the ongoing heated debates, let me summarize it for you.


Debuffs will over write any type of buff totally.


Example1. Person has force run or burst run active. Person B shoots them with a snare special, thus making the run buff inactive.


Example 2. MCM uses hemorrage/traumitize on his opponent. The attackee now has his food/spice/doc buff overwritten and basically made to equal 0.



There will be no reason for combatant to use regen food again when this goes through because most elite pvprs will have some CM in their template, or the ability to debuff as i mentioned.



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Message Edited by Opie76 on 10-11-2005 02:17 PM

Message Edited by Opie76 on 10-11-2005 02:46 PM

icarus7
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:41 pm
#2

i thougth of this too, but havnt seen anybody who was on the beta give any info.


do u think it would just =0 till it wear's off than the food reactivates?





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Opie76
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:42 pm
#3

I'm not sure to be honest. I'm just going by beta forum posts right now. I haven't tested in a few days due to RL stuff, but hope to have an answer tonight or tomorrow.



mmrl1
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:49 pm
#4

Ya but everyone would use food. Even if you got debuffed if you wanted the "edge" that food provides (and honestly it's just an edge) you'd still want to take the chance that a person wouldn't debuff you.

Besides, especially in bigger pvp battles it may take you awhile to get debuffed and that edge will help a lot.





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MeciniaLua
Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:27 pm
#5

This might hit a nail in a coffin for a lot of chefs.


I can see a lot of problems.


Its not just PVP that this is gonna kill you, its gonna hurt in PVE as well. I'm on dial up so I can't test it, plus my folks are here visiting this week.


With the NPCs using specials now they will just as easily kick off your foods. If your foods don't return after the state wears off that's going to leave you with a full stomach and no food buffs.


This could very much be a concern, can our Chef Correspondant look into this please?





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Mayor_Woosh
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:56 pm
#6

As long as the debuffs have a short duration and dont cancel your buffs totallyI dont see what the problem is.







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Opie76
Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:22 pm
#7

They do cancel the buffs totally. Thats the problem.
kaati
Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:29 pm
#8

This sounds like a problem...



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Brainplay
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:40 am
#9






Opie76 wrote:
They do cancel the buffs totally. Thats the problem.






As in remove them completely from the bar? Can you confirm this and when did it happen. Before when the debuffs wore off the buff was still there.


Additionally no one has posted what happens if you have both a doctor buff and a corresponding food buff.


Additionally if you dont have food buffs and get hit with a debuff what will happen? Isn't the counter to a buff a DE-buff?


So far it looks more like burst run is going to be the only thing thats really going to take a hit. Doctor buffs have always been counters by CM debuffs and foods the same as well.







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audioslaves
Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:07 am
#10

Sigh, I knew there was a reason I hadn't been reading the chef boards lately.



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Mayor_Woosh
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:42 am
#11

If they remove them from your character totally that needs to be addressed.


That is just a tad overpowered






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Higginsis
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:34 am
#12

As far as i was aware, this only applies to the movement buffs and debuffs, not all buffs.

I've ask for confirmation.



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peeweeIoM
Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:14 am
#13

How about this....



LAXETIVES!


Say it clears you food/drink bar but youhave -20% regen for like 10 seconds or something, then you can eat your foods again





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