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Thread: anyone else miss experimenting on subcomponents...
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Dsabre
Sun Apr 25, 2004 4:13 pm
#1
as things are now...I'm just not feeling the same challenge creating the best foods anymore...
creating your subcomponents just right in order to make the best possible BoH, or fishak was really quite a bit more challenging than creating brandy now...and I don't know about everyone else...but I miss that.
theres soooooo very little variation in terms of brandy stats (and almost every other food/drink) on any individual server...and the only real way to seperate yourself as a top chef now...is to have 12 points and good resources...as opposed to having to know which way to experiment your subcomponents so that your final product could be as good as it possibly could.
now, its just grab some good resources, pick up some good BE additives, and anyone with the same resources and points can make the same stat brandy (or whatever else) with little if any effort.
I think if the devs made the same change to WS, DE, doc/med/CM, AS, arch, etc...there'd be a huge riot, but since we're chefs...perhaps we should all make some blue male moncals (must be male to go shirtless), pick up white shirts, white dress shoes, and white kitchen master hats on TC in some kind of organized protest...or at least to make everyone on TC wonder whats going on...either that or everyone go to the FF and wedgie sciguyCo until he gets the devs to put experimenting back into foods/drinks.
creating your subcomponents just right in order to make the best possible BoH, or fishak was really quite a bit more challenging than creating brandy now...and I don't know about everyone else...but I miss that.
theres soooooo very little variation in terms of brandy stats (and almost every other food/drink) on any individual server...and the only real way to seperate yourself as a top chef now...is to have 12 points and good resources...as opposed to having to know which way to experiment your subcomponents so that your final product could be as good as it possibly could.
now, its just grab some good resources, pick up some good BE additives, and anyone with the same resources and points can make the same stat brandy (or whatever else) with little if any effort.
I think if the devs made the same change to WS, DE, doc/med/CM, AS, arch, etc...there'd be a huge riot, but since we're chefs...perhaps we should all make some blue male moncals (must be male to go shirtless), pick up white shirts, white dress shoes, and white kitchen master hats on TC in some kind of organized protest...or at least to make everyone on TC wonder whats going on...either that or everyone go to the FF and wedgie sciguyCo until he gets the devs to put experimenting back into foods/drinks.
CJadefire
Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:07 pm
#2
I don't feel like we've been robbed of anything. If they were still experimentable, we'd all just figure out the 'best' way to experiment comps, and our items would still come out the same, only with a whole extra level of complication and annoyance. Not worth it... I'd rather they fix the issues with mediocre resources producing almost or as good a quality of item as exceptional resources (applicable mostly with the skill food) - rather than see them hand us new headaches.
Olanthe
Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:03 am
#3
Don't miss it at all.
I like being able to use fewer of the best-of-the-best resources, and I certainly don't miss standing in front of the crafting station for an hour trying to get a carbosyrup or dough that didn't suck. And the challenge is still there if you know where to look for it. Sure, getting a buff over +400 on brandy is a no-brainer, but can you do that AND get the duration to 45 minutes? I only know a couple of chefs in my galaxy who can, so clearly there is some skill involved. 
Numen
Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:52 am
#4
I can't say I mind not being able to experiment on them. While my brandy might be the same as anyone else my citros snow cake, air cake, or canepe ect...
I also believe that the power our food has right now is pretty decent. I'm still not that happy that BE tissues are required to get what some people believe is decent food. I just don't see the power of the food increaseing at all if experimentation of subcomponents was put back in.
OmNiEternal
Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:04 pm
#5
Recently I was clearing out some old components (Aludium) and making a special order of brandy for someone and noticed that it gave me an extra use.
This was made with a large glass, I was able to make +430 for 40 Mins and 10 Uses with the Aludium, with alchohol it gave me only 9 uses, same stat and duration.
I'd like to see either of the following:
A) Bring back Experimentation, keep subcomponet serial requirement
B) Don't bring back Experimentation, remove subcomponent serial number requirement.
skhisma
Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:14 am
#6
i kind of miss it too, but what i miss more is all the crates of alcohol i had saved up getting ready for the revamp that then were no longer usable.
/frown
/frown
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