Chef Archive
Thread: Supplying Chefs with Resources
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Mondoshawan
Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:21 pm
#1
Hi,
I've always been a fan of chefs, and I'm a farmer that loves his job. I harvest large amounts of florals and generally only high quality fruits, cereals, and vegetables.
My question is, do you guys use the structural wood resources at all? I don't generally harvest them because they have extra stats that make my spreadsheets all yucky.
Besides the named Tatooine and Corellia resources, are there any other named resources you use? (ie Tatootine berries)
What about meat/milk/eggs? I have scout abilities, but loathe the work involved in collecting larger stacks of these items.
In general, is this list of priority stats correct? 1) PE 2) OQ 3) FL 4) DR
In general, would you say you harvest50% of your own materials? More? Less?
(I guess I had more than one question...)
Thanks!!
~a supplier looking to serve you better.
Saitek
Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:18 pm
#2
Mondoshawan wrote:
Hi,
I've always been a fan of chefs, and I'm a farmer that loves his job. I harvest large amounts of florals and generally only high quality fruits, cereals, and vegetables.
My question is, do you guys use the structural wood resources at all? I don't generally harvest them because they have extra stats that make my spreadsheets all yucky.
Yes Softwood is used for Thakitllo and another recipe I believe.
Besides the named Tatooine and Corellia resources, are there any other named resources you use? (ie Tatootine berries)
Not that I can recall off the top of my head, though there are a few very specific gases and minerals we use but people rarely make those recipes because they suck.
What about meat/milk/eggs? I have scout abilities, but loathe the work involved in collecting larger stacks of these items.
Eggs we don't really need, the others we do in large quantities with good stats. We can use crappy milk for components.
In general, is this list of priority stats correct? 1) PE 2) OQ 3) FL 4) DR
Generally.
In general, would you say you harvest50% of your own materials? More? Less?
I harvest 95% own my own, but this varies from chef to chef
(I guess I had more than one question...)
Thanks!!
~a supplier looking to serve you better.
Mondoshawan
Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:44 pm
#3
Followup question ... what stack sizes of florals do you generally look for? 10K, 25K, 50K, 100k??
Thanks!
MilkToast
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:18 pm
#4
100k for any flora resources, preferably multiple 100k stacks.
Megatroid
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:40 am
#6
I've supplied doc resources but am moving into the chef resource market too.
Seems like brandy and canape are most in demand hands down, so fruit and berries are needed most specifically? then maybe generic but high stat cereals and veggies for synthsteak and veghash, bivoli?
What do you pay for carnivore meat?
On pricing, what is your breakeven point on most items? What prices do you typically pay? I'm sure it's different on most servers, but basic mining costs are somewhat similar. Do you pay 3, 5, 10cpu for great resources?
Ankor
Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:12 pm
#7
Mondoshawan wrote:Hi,I've always been a fan of chefs, and I'm a farmer that loves his job. I harvest large amounts of florals and generally only high quality fruits, cereals, and vegetables.My question is, do you guys use the structural wood resources at all?
Evergreen Soft Wood (there's another wood recipe, but the Evergreen Wood satisfies both the specific and general requirement recipes).Besides the named Tatooine and Corellia resources, are there any other named resources you use? (ie Tatootine berries)
No other named flora resources. Methanagen, Hydron-3, and Hurlothrombic Inert gases go into the never-made near-useless T'illa T'ill.What about meat/milk/eggs? I have scout abilities, but loathe the work involved in collecting larger stacks of these items.
You and everybody else. I'd rather stop making milk-dependant recipes than go out milking. The nice thing (from a collector's POV) is that 90% of a Chef's milk goes into butters, so the stats on it don't matter. Which means you can simply find the best high-quanitity low-effort milking creature and harvest away regardless of what stats are in shift on what planets. As for hide, Scaly goes into Garmorrl (low volume seller) and Wooly goes into Jawa Beer (also low volume). Insect meat goes into Vercupti, and if it has high PE OQ and DR, it's worth its weight in gold. Reptile meat goes into a non-sellable item too, I think it was the Trando regen food (Karkan?) After that generic meat goes into additives, and Carnivore meat goes into Bivoli. I (and I'm sure most other Chefs too) solve both of these high-volume requirements by just waiting for Dathomir to have a good Carnivore meat shift and stockpiling a few months' worth.In general, is this list of priority stats correct? 1) PE 2) OQ 3) FL 4) DR
Yes.In general, would you say you harvest50% of your own materials? More? Less?
I harvest 100% of my non-subcomponent flora. I frequently buy grinding stuff at 2-2.5 cpu to make subcomponents. It'd take a rather exceptional flora to get me to buy it. I can only think of two flora resources that have ever spawned on Bria that I would be willing to pay even 5 cpu for today.
On creature resources, I buy 100% of my milk, 50% of my insect meat, little of my carn meat. I would buy Sclay hide if there were any for sale, but most harvesters are going after the 50+ cpu spawns of Avian and Herbivore meat for Docs, and I don't blame them.
EvilHQ
Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:22 pm
#8
Mondoshawan wrote:
Hi,
I've always been a fan of chefs, and I'm a farmer that loves his job. I harvest large amounts of florals and generally only high quality fruits, cereals, and vegetables.
My question is, do you guys use the structural wood resources at all? I don't generally harvest them because they have extra stats that make my spreadsheets all yucky.
Evergreen Softwood on occasion a recipe calls for it
Besides the named Tatooine and Corellia resources, are there any other named resources you use? (ie Tatootine berries)
Not really, certain recipes use specific resources (Corellian Domesticated Wheat I beleive)
What about meat/milk/eggs? I have scout abilities, but loathe the work involved in collecting larger stacks of these items.
Milk, with good PE/OQ (I think) and lots of it...
In general, is this list of priority stats correct? 1) PE 2) OQ 3) FL 4) DR
Correct, but it can vary from recipe to recipesome 66% PE / 33% OQ, others are the other way around.
In general, would you say you harvest50% of your own materials? More? Less?
approx 75% (mostly organics), stuff for glasses/casks (i.e Crystaline Gemstone / Trims) I buy in, also Tissues (although I tend to supply test resources in trade for a schematic and run it from my own resources to keep the cost down).
But...
If I found a vendor with 900+ OQ / 900+ PE / 800+ DR & FL Berries or FruitsI'd snap it all right up
(I guess I had more than one question...)
Thanks!!
~a supplier looking to serve you better.
DaRoamer
Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:23 pm
#9
I noticed you're on Starsider. Can you post a waypoint to your shop? I can never find good chef resources that are of high quality. The majority of my resources I've harvested myself but in the future I think I'll start buying some that I don't have the time and/or lots to harvest. Thanks!
HavocDroid
Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:53 pm
#10
What about meat/milk/eggs? I have scout abilities, but loathe the work involved in collecting larger stacks of these items.
I use milk with high PE/OQ for making blue milk, normally i'll collect/buy it in 1k stacks. Meat i use in great quantities of about 20k to give to my bio engineer to get a schematic made. Eggs, i also give to my bio-engineer for free as I don't have any use for them.
In general, is this list of priority stats correct? 1) PE 2) OQ 3) FL 4) DR
If your aiming for high nutrition it is correct. I think that nearly everythingdepends on 66% PE and 33% OQ for nutrition, things that don't are probablylisted incorectly(ie. blue milk).
In general, would you say you harvest50% of your own materials? More? Less?
I would say that I harvest 100% of my materials. I am a master Artisan and survey for everything including power. Meats/milk are collected by myself and other people in my guild with scouting skills. I have no one to buy them off. There are always people asking me for chef resources on my server (Tarq) be it for grinding or for manufacturing, someone like you would really help out as there is a severe lack of organic resource vendors and the bazaar is too small for bulk materials.
MilkToast
Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:39 pm
#11
Although, fruits and berries are critically important to many of the chefs best selling products they aren't my most used resources by unit. I make all my own BE additives and these consume 50k to 110k units of organics, flora food and meat every full run.I use large quantities of wood witha very highOQ (>990 if possible), flora food with a high OQ, PE and FL (all > 900 if possible)andany meat with a high OQ, PE and FL.
Mondoshawan
Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:46 pm
#12
DaRoamer, and anyone else that is interested:
I don't run a shop or vendor (the shop so I can use the 2 extra lots for harvesters and the vendor because why pay a fee?) - I generally do all my transactions person-to-person ... and run auctions on the trade forums.
I have also recently decided to not harvest my own power and be dependant on others who supply it ... after all, doing everything yourself is rather boring, and working with others, I feel, makes the economy work ... and it frees up another 1-2 harvester lots.
So, in the end, I have all 10 lots on florals - makes surveying easy, and I can count on the income from the extra lots to cover the power costs across the board and still make a profit.
And thanks to everyone for their great replies!
I started playing because I wanted to craft, but found it too tedious for my tastes ... and they axed the farmer profession, so I kinda made my own. I do actually enjoy searching around for resources and getting that bit of excitement when I find a high quality resource in a very high concentration ... all in an empty field with no other harvesters placed there yet ... and I get to travel.
Anyways, I hope to sell you all floral resources soon! 
Numen
Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:10 am
#13
Megatroid wrote:
I've supplied doc resources but am moving into the chef resource market too.
Seems like brandy and canape are most in demand hands down, so fruit and berries are needed most specifically? then maybe generic but high stat cereals and veggies for synthsteak and veghash, bivoli?
What do you pay for carnivore meat?
On pricing, what is your breakeven point on most items? What prices do you typically pay? I'm sure it's different on most servers, but basic mining costs are somewhat similar. Do you pay 3, 5, 10cpu for great resources?
Correct in that fruit and berries are the most used. My best guess is that 50% of the resources I use are of those 2 types. The rest is a combination of the other 20+ resources chefs use.
Meat prices vary greatly from server to server. At the moment I'm paying 50cpu for some endor carn on Tempest. I have never gone that high and at that price it will probably only be used in Bivoli. I would put that at the limit of what BE/Chefs will pay for most meat. It better be very good meat for that though. My average price is 20-35cpu. Again server matters a lot here.
I've actually never paid more than 5cpu for flora resources. It would have to be something quite rare for me to do that. Average price would be 3cpu for current spawning flora. Realize that flora tends to last longer than mineral resources. Its not uncommon for a resource to stay for 14+ days. Its not guarenteed either, but the past 12 or so I've harvested, not one lasted less than 10 days. Most were 14+.
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