Chef Archive
Thread: Meat Question
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Blaisze
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:12 am
#1
Can chefs ony use carnivore and avian meat, or is any type of meat in high demand? Im asking because Ill assume its chefs that pay 250cpu for meat on the trade forums, but I have been fooled before...
sciguyCO
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:18 am
#2
Docs are the main users of avian meat.
Chefs use mostly carnivore (for bivoli), for most of our other popular items any meat will do. Our main use for meat is actually BE tissues, and the nutrition ones can use any type.
And I'd have to say it's probably the docs paying 250cpu. Avian meat is tough to get in large quantities, and I think chefs have more expenses to worry about.
Co-valent
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:26 am
#3
sciguyCO wrote:
And I'd have to say it's probably the docs paying 250cpu. Avian meat is tough to get in large quantities, and I think chefs have more expenses to worry about.
Yep, they pay those outrageous amounts for things like Avian Meat on Tatooine where only Dwarf Nunas drop it. I would hate to think what a chef would have to charge if they payed that much 
Blaisze
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:28 am
#4
Our Endorian insect meat on eclipse is very good, should I waste my time collecting this?
sciguyCO
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:30 am
#5
Ah, I forgot about Vercupti. Yes, chefs will also take insect meat.
A good way to figure out who's a good market for resources is using the "resource usage" link on swgcraft.com. You can put in a resource type, and it'll give you a list of all the schematics that use it.
StikerRunningfly
Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:37 am
#6
Co-valent wrote:
sciguyCO wrote:
And I'd have to say it's probably the docs paying 250cpu. Avian meat is tough to get in large quantities, and I think chefs have more expenses to worry about.
Yep, they pay those outrageous amounts for things like Avian Meat on Tatooine where only Dwarf Nunas drop it. I would hate to think what a chef would have to charge if they payed that much
With a price of 250cpu, your cost for just the meat to make just 1 serving of bivoli would be 7500. Add in the rest of the resources needed and you'd be charging upward of 20-30k for just one of these. Meaning that crates of bivoli would be anywhere between 500k and 1mil. OUCH! Docs are able to pay these kinds of prices, I suppose, because it takes 22 units of avian meat to create 1 buff pack that can be used 20-25 times. So they will pay 33k for the meat that they need and make 250k-375k from using the packs to buff people.
sfubar
Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:44 pm
#7
I have a contact thats a BE, and who has said if I provide resources they will make me schematics for free.
I heard on the forums somewhere that componants dont make any differance in quality in chef, so can I use any meat for my BE, or do I need to provide good OQ and PE stuff like they have asked? will it really make any difference?
Higginsis
Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:52 pm
#8
BE adds needs high OQ/PE/FL, with 50%, 35%, and 15% stat usage.
So yes they do.
Tho when you come to make the tissues into additives the water you use makes no difference.
So yes they do.
Tho when you come to make the tissues into additives the water you use makes no difference.
Death-Blow
Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:16 pm
#9
Higgins your BE tissue formula is a little off is 50% OQ, 30% PE, 20% FL.
Higginsis
Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:15 pm
#10
Knew it was that or the one i posted, i guessed wrong obviously.
Kryxal
Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:04 pm
#11
If your BE knows to use wood when possible (after all, with 30 types of wood to choose from at a time, 950+ OQ is easy), the formula changes a bit and becomes more individual for different additives. For BSNs using wood where possible it's effectively 45:48:32 OQE:FL. I never bothered getting it neatly to 100%, and the upshot is the FL is 2/3 as important as the OQ and PE now. A meat's poor OQ doesn't mean it can't be used, now the wood makes it matter less.
E:FL. I never bothered getting it neatly to 100%, and the upshot is the FL is 2/3 as important as the OQ and PE now. A meat's poor OQ doesn't mean it can't be used, now the wood makes it matter less.
u962281
Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:26 pm
#12
When you read on the forum that components make no difference in chef food, that is true for all except the BE items (and the resources, obviously). That means that alcohol, dough, carbosyrup, soypro, etc which go into recipes can be made with the most grind quality resources you can find. However all othercomponent stats will come into play. Your BE supplements will have stats. The item most used is probably the (Med additive) Broad Spectrum Nutrients (BSN). These range from +80 to +87 or so. (Could be better or worse, maybe, just have never seen it.)
So, make your alcohol out of crud cereal, but invest in good BE supplements. The posts above outlined the stats needed for the BE to make good items.
bizondele
Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:01 pm
#13
Yeah these guys are right on the money, IMO the most important thing to a BE is the quality of meat becuase it is the most expensive resource to make chef tissues, even with the wood work around the meat still has to be above decent.
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