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Thread: Blue Milk...Price and quality please
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Atreyuu
Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:40 pm
#1
I have never made Blue Milk before nor did I ever plan to, but one of my best customers has ordered a few crates and so I was loooking for what would be good quality and what is a fair price..please help me 
Mayor_Woosh
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:39 am
#2
I stock around 5 crates only ever of 630-700 point Blue milk with 33ish fill. Its not a very popular item every since folks started taking two shots of brandy. However It does have its loyal following still. Since its so unpopular I only charge 75k a crate for it.
Some folks charge more or less depending on how much of a pain it is to get milk on your server. 
OditeFosore
Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:16 am
#3
I think I am my own downfall on blue milk. I really dislike making it as it pulls milk away from foods I think are more useful - namely pikatta pie and smuggler's delight, so I charge 200k/crate to slow demand a bit. I still sell out every time I do a half run (about once a week), but I think more would sell if it were more reasonably priced.
Message Edited by OditeFosore on 09-02-2004 09:16 AM
Bliznit
Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:05 am
#4
I sell crates of 18 use , 680 mind 30 fill blue milk for 175-180 k.
If flies off the shelves. Guys love it for doing the Vette runs, as they only often need the mind buff and already have 2 brandies cooking for 15 mins of empty stomach.
Qizothtrc
Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:28 pm
#5
This being the case... why are all the chefs not willing to purchase my milk? (Corbantis)
I have people that won't give me the time of day as far as milk purchases go. I have a stack of 10k Wild Milk.... stats are OQ 979 FL 998 (I believe). Is there anything wrong with this stuff? I thought the stats looked pretty good to me?
Took me a LOT of time and energy to collect this stuff... and I'll be darned if I'm gonna sell it for the measely 20 cpu they are willing to give me for it.
I even have one Chef that won't even accept the milk unless it's from Dant or Naboo.
Being only a n00b milk gatherer... and not a Chef... (only wannabe supplier to such) Why would someone only want milk from a particular planet? Does the "gather location" have something to do with the effectiveness?
Milks gonna dry up on Corbantis if our Chefs don't give us the prices we need to keep it flowing. Maybe there's just something I don't know... How many units of milk does it take to make Blue Milk?
Thanks for anything you can give me to better understand the needs of my customers.
CasualMaker
Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:02 pm
#6
Qizothtrc wrote:This being the case... why are all the chefs not willing to purchase my milk? (Corbantis)I have people that won't give me the time of day as far as milk purchases go. I have a stack of 10k Wild Milk.... stats are OQ 979 FL 998 (I believe). Is there anything wrong with this stuff? I thought the stats looked pretty good to me?Took me a LOT of time and energy to collect this stuff... and I'll be darned if I'm gonna sell it for the measely 20 cpu they are willing to give me for it.I even have one Chef that won't even accept the milk unless it's from Dant or Naboo.Being only a n00b milk gatherer... and not a Chef... (only wannabe supplier to such) Why would someone only want milk from a particular planet? Does the "gather location" have something to do with the effectiveness?Milks gonna dry up on Corbantis if our Chefs don't give us the prices we need to keep it flowing. Maybe there's just something I don't know... How many units of milk does it take to make Blue Milk?Thanks for anything you can give me to better understand the needs of my customers.
The OQ and FL are great, but what is the PE and DR? For most Chef foods, the important stats are (more-or-less in order) PE OQ FL DR, with some argument about whether OQ and FL should switch places. All four have an effect on the final product, and being really high in a couple doesn't always compensate for being really low in the others. If a milk doesn't have great stats, then it's likely only good for churning into Bantha Butter, a "component food" where the stats have no effect on the product.
As for the Chef that wants only milk from Dant or Naboo: my best guess would be that he already has a stock of milk from those planets, and doesn't want a third type to worry about. The current milk spawns there don't look very special. As far as I know, the only Chef recipes calling for planet-specific resources are Corellian Ale, Corellian Brandy, and Bespin Port (none of which use milk).
Blue Milk uses 10 units of milk and 5 units of meat.
Morganite
Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:50 pm
#7
Qizothtrc wrote:
This being the case... why are all the chefs not willing to purchase my milk? (Corbantis)
I have people that won't give me the time of day as far as milk purchases go. I have a stack of 10k Wild Milk.... stats are OQ 979 FL 998 (I believe). Is there anything wrong with this stuff? I thought the stats looked pretty good to me? For blue milk, the only stats that really matter are oq/pe/dr. There is no duration on milk, so flavor is basically a throwaway stat. (yes, it affects the filling, but 33ish is pretty easy just so.)
Took me a LOT of time and energy to collect this stuff... and I'll be darned if I'm gonna sell it for the measely 20 cpu they are willing to give me for it. I pay 75 cpu on my server just to get people to even think about collecting milk.
I even have one Chef that won't even accept the milk unless it's from Dant or Naboo. This is because these 2 planets are the 2 biggest "milk producers", and it is very easy to get a large stack of milk from either place.
Being only a n00b milk gatherer... and not a Chef... (only wannabe supplier to such) Why would someone only want milk from a particular planet? Does the "gather location" have something to do with the effectiveness? See above response.
Milks gonna dry up on Corbantis if our Chefs don't give us the prices we need to keep it flowing. Maybe there's just something I don't know... How many units of milk does it take to make Blue Milk? With milk, it is less quality, and more quanity for milk. Blue milk can be a good seller, but piketa pie's and smugglers delights, which use milk in a component (and therefore stat are not important on the milk)is where the real "milk money" is at, thus why quanity is more important then quality for most milk usage.
Thanks for anything you can give me to better understand the needs of my customers. Hope my answers helped. Still dont understand why they aren't offering at least 50 cpu for the milk, possibly due to the small amount you have gathered? 5k is my minimum stack-size I will purchase.
Message Edited by Morganite on 09-12-2004 08:51 PM
Ikooga
Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:29 pm
#8
10k might sound a lot to you, I know what a pain milk gathering is, I tried it myself, but one crate of smugglers delight burns 1000 units of milk.
If i would now pay 50 cpu for the milk that would set the base production price for smugglers delight at already 50k, thats without additves which are another 40-50k usually. Then the other ingredients. Tubers and Fruits, 500 of each per crate. They can get pretty expensive as well. Lets assume 10 cpu for them, thats another 10k creds.
So we're talking about around 100k just material costs for me. So i'd have to charge more. Considering that a crate of Smugglers delight is just 25 shots (they are only singles possible, at least i've not heard of any 2 uses SD) that makes one use of it almost as expensive as a whole crate of the spice its supposed to counter...
So I would not pay 50 cpu just to use it in SD or Pie (uses 500 per crate here)...
Numen
Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:36 pm
#9
Well if you happened to be on Tempest I would have bought that milk instantly from you.
Most of my milk actually goes for additives for Burst run food. The only food I make with milk is Blue milk. 15-18 uses 25 ct crate for 100-125k depending on the stats. Usually 600-650 or so.
I wouldn't say it flys off the shelf though for me. I might sell 2 crates a week. I really don't like the drink, and suggest there are better options. I guess if there is a time where you don't mind having no brandy effect for 15-20 minute in the future it isn't too bad. I just assume people want a constant buff with brandy and don't want some downtime every hour.
Todaysmash
Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:00 pm
#10
I don't really sell Blue Milk, but the last time I made it, it was 654 mind heal 29 filling and 12 uses for 7.3k per bottle.
KDenelor
Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:21 am
#11
I could never figure the reasoning behind blue milk when you could use brandy to give you the regen on top of the boost to the pool. guess that's just me.
OditeFosore
Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:36 am
#12
KDenelor wrote:
I could never figure the reasoning behind blue milk when you could use brandy to give you the regen on top of the boost to the pool. guess that's just me.
It's only for life-saving purposes. Brandy is what buffs you, blue milk keeps you alive when you've lost a bunch of mind - it's an instant heal, which can be priceless when you are getting pounded by say Nyax and his 1100 damage T21 doing headshot3 on you. So, your mind gets pummelled, you check and you have no room for another brandy, but you do have room for a 28 filling +650 mind heal blue milk, or a 15 filling aitha, so you take what you can, retreat, get healed up and go back out.
Morganite
Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:32 am
#13
Ikooga wrote:
10k might sound a lot to you, I know what a pain milk gathering is, I tried it myself, but one crate of smugglers delight burns 1000 units of milk.
If i would now pay 50 cpu for the milk that would set the base production price for smugglers delight at already 50k, thats without additves which are another 40-50k usually. Then the other ingredients. Tubers and Fruits, 500 of each per crate. They can get pretty expensive as well. Lets assume 10 cpu for them, thats another 10k creds.
So we're talking about around 100k just material costs for me. So i'd have to charge more. Considering that a crate of Smugglers delight is just 25 shots (they are only singles possible, at least i've not heard of any 2 uses SD) that makes one use of it almost as expensive as a whole crate of the spice its supposed to counter...
So I would not pay 50 cpu just to use it in SD or Pie (uses 500 per crate here)...
I cant keep pie on my vendor at 150k/crate, I could charge 200k and it would still fly off my vendor.. I group muon with smugglers delights in a travel pack, sell the whole thing for 200k. (the few times I have enough milk for smugglers delights)
My profit on the pie is 300% above cost, the delights I get twice back my investment. The pie therefore is an obvious one to make. It is a simple to makefood, only need bantha's butters and the addative, easy to make like ahirsa's. If you sell muon, grouping the muon with a smugglers delight is a means of giving your customers a more full menu, and still making some profit. 200k for 25 uses of a 10 minute +600 to all mind stat boost with no real downer is worth 200k to an avid pvp'er.
With all chef's craftables, you have to teach your clients the usefullness of each item. I used to have trouble selling blue milk, then I enlightened people that having a blue milk was like having a personal combat medic along with you to heal your mind. 1 brandy, 1 ahirsa should be a staple to anyone, then add in a canape when needed, then the blue milk for that quick mindheal when the chips are down. Add a smugglers delight in before the fight (due to it's hour duration), and you really dont have to fear being mind incapped again. That sure beats taking 2 brandy's and hoping you dont get mind incapped, doesnt it?
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