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Thread: Brandy Sorry
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MaliaMing
Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:04 am
#2
66% PE
33% OQ
...for nutritional value, anyway.
33% OQ
...for nutritional value, anyway.
Message Edited by MaliaMing on 12-22-2004 03:05 AM
Numen
Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:20 pm
#3
IMO they are about equal. OQ is taken into account in more stats than PE although it is only 33% at most in any part. 900 PE 500 OQ is probably better than 500 PE 900 OQ but it would really depend on the other stats.
Brandy is one of the few foods that all 4 stats do matter. Many foods you can get away with low DR or low FL. 35 minute 51 filling brandy is some really crappy brandy IMO. ![]()
Ikooga
Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:35 pm
#4
Actually I don't think DR matters a lot on brandy.
I wouldn't use berries or Fruits with just 200 there, but 400 is enough usually.
You start at 51 filling, put one experimentation point in and get to 49 in that.
Of course everything above 900 is nice too, no question, but i'd not sacrifice too much PE/OQ for DR, it really doesn't matter much.
(Even with said 200 DR fruits I hit 50% in 1 exp. so I could still use that)
I wouldn't use berries or Fruits with just 200 there, but 400 is enough usually.
You start at 51 filling, put one experimentation point in and get to 49 in that.
Of course everything above 900 is nice too, no question, but i'd not sacrifice too much PE/OQ for DR, it really doesn't matter much.
(Even with said 200 DR fruits I hit 50% in 1 exp. so I could still use that)
LuciousOtso
Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:03 am
#5
my main fruits i used have at least 850 PE and OQ but most of them have a min of 900 OQ and PE.... this makes a nice nutritional value, but there is much more, cause if you have high flavor in both fruits/berries then you don't have to put say.. that one extra point into time and can use it for nutrition... i like to have just high enough DR so that i get to 21 use brandy without having to waste points in it, they are much better used in nut/fl
Ikooga
Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:14 pm
#6
Sure
If i can get 49 with the initial combine thats nice.
But unless you have really great Fruits and Berries thats either not going to happen, or you have lower starting points for Nutrition and Flavor, so that you actually HAVE to use that spare point there.
I'm usually always very close to the cap of my nutrition. I think i experiment to 91% with 93% being the cap of my resources.
I have other berries and fruits and tested them too. With one combi I get the 49% on the initial combine.
But I can only experiment Nutrition to 85% then or so. not really sure anymore.
Anyway. Result would be, that yes, I have freed a point on Filling. But I can't use it on nutrition, since its already capped. I use it on Duration then? was at 45 min before so I raise it to 47 or so.
Well could have done the same with my other fruits as well.
Thats still very good resources (I think every 8 stats are 800+) but for that drink its actually worse than my others that have around 400 on DR but then 900-1000 on OQ and PE. At least I consider them worse, others might think differently.
But as I said, if i get my hands on some awsome resources, like everything 950+ or so... oh well, I guess I would be happy then to safe a point at filling...
But usually you'll just have to use that safed point somewhere else to get back to the level where you've been before.
If i can get 49 with the initial combine thats nice.
But unless you have really great Fruits and Berries thats either not going to happen, or you have lower starting points for Nutrition and Flavor, so that you actually HAVE to use that spare point there.
I'm usually always very close to the cap of my nutrition. I think i experiment to 91% with 93% being the cap of my resources.
I have other berries and fruits and tested them too. With one combi I get the 49% on the initial combine.
But I can only experiment Nutrition to 85% then or so. not really sure anymore.
Anyway. Result would be, that yes, I have freed a point on Filling. But I can't use it on nutrition, since its already capped. I use it on Duration then? was at 45 min before so I raise it to 47 or so.
Well could have done the same with my other fruits as well.
Thats still very good resources (I think every 8 stats are 800+) but for that drink its actually worse than my others that have around 400 on DR but then 900-1000 on OQ and PE. At least I consider them worse, others might think differently.
But as I said, if i get my hands on some awsome resources, like everything 950+ or so... oh well, I guess I would be happy then to safe a point at filling...
But usually you'll just have to use that safed point somewhere else to get back to the level where you've been before.
Higginsis
Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:23 pm
#7
I use 300 DR 900 OQ fruits and 900 DR 900 OQ berries and i get 50 fill on combine, so aslong as you have good OQ on one and good OQ/DR on the other you should be ok.
But having to put a point in filling is a real killer for you brandy, like numen said its a couple of minutes or 10-20 points.
But having to put a point in filling is a real killer for you brandy, like numen said its a couple of minutes or 10-20 points.
Higginsis
Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:43 pm
#9
I would be too but if you had the extra point spare from not putting it in the filling then it would be even better.
Ikooga
Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:19 pm
#10
*sighs*
Of course.
I was saying thought that if i have to decide which of my stats will be 400, then I choose DR usually.
If I have to choose between DR 400 and DR 900 with everything else staying the same... but thats not the point here.
I only need 3 points in Duration. With other berry/fruit combinations i need at least 4 there usually, to be as good.
So instead of saving the point at filling I save it at duration. I guess in the end its all the same unless you really have berrys and fruits with almost all stats in the 950 area.
Of course.
I was saying thought that if i have to decide which of my stats will be 400, then I choose DR usually.
If I have to choose between DR 400 and DR 900 with everything else staying the same... but thats not the point here.
I only need 3 points in Duration. With other berry/fruit combinations i need at least 4 there usually, to be as good.
So instead of saving the point at filling I save it at duration. I guess in the end its all the same unless you really have berrys and fruits with almost all stats in the 950 area.
Numen
Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:40 am
#11
Ikooga wrote:
Actually I don't think DR matters a lot on brandy.
I wouldn't use berries or Fruits with just 200 there, but 400 is enough usually.
You start at 51 filling, put one experimentation point in and get to 49 in that.
Of course everything above 900 is nice too, no question, but i'd not sacrifice too much PE/OQ for DR, it really doesn't matter much.
(Even with said 200 DR fruits I hit 50% in 1 exp. so I could still use that)
Initial combine on my brandy is 49 filling. If you need to use one point on filling, thats one less point you can use on duration and buff. So 2 minutes or 10-12 buff points lower.
Eerif
Fri Dec 24, 2004 3:09 pm
#12
In my opinion, between PE and OQ, I would favor OQ, since it is judged when determining the duration, power and filling. Whereas PE only determines the power and charges (charges in this case however do not really matter since it will most likely always have a base of 6).
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