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Thread: Just broke down how much time and resources I go through per day

Jihadic
Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:11 pm
#1

Had to set a few people straight over the easiness/greediness of chefs


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Gorath&message.id=131592


What do you guys think?



Jobarra
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Purmal
Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:03 pm
#2

if its BE enhanced, (and it appears to be) then 350k is a completely fair price.... my own BE enhanced foods will be selling around there as well...




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mrthx
Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:10 pm
#3

I find it ridiculous when people tell me that they bought Vasarian for 80k so I should sell mine for that. Then when I ask the stats on it they never reply. I have made so many enemies selling my Vasarian for 300k but they dont realize that you get more bang for your buck going with large crates with casks and BE enhancements than you do for individuals or nonBEenhanced noncasked...

I need to rant because I cant take it today...





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Jihadic
Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:37 pm
#4

I tried to lay out why that was a good price in the thread. But the amount of resources this is taking just to have a sold out vendor is amazing . I just went and bought 2M HQ organics just for the additives and that will maybe last me a week . The meat is going to be the fun thing to get a hold of .



Jobarra
Master Chef
Visit my vendors in the Falconcrest Mall in Falconcrest, Corellia.
Looking to buy Food Exp and Food Assembly Clothing Attachments. +4 at LEAST please.
Syke
Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:28 am
#5

Its a waste of time engaging anyone in an enlightenment session...people either get it or they don't...


Reading through that thread just proves that the people who don't understandor agree with the concept of a free marketeconomywould rather insert jabs than provide a logical reason why supply and demand should not prevail.


Why does it matter if someone sells it for less somewhere else?It could be inferior product,someone who doesn't have the overhead that others do (aka a PA providing resources), or even someone with a horrible reputation and can onlypush product out the door because its cheap (ever hear of Wal-Mart? If the prices weren't so low, few would shop there with such terrible service).


Bottomline is that we charge what we feel supports the bottomline. If we aren't happy with the revenue we generate from a given product...why make it? Charge what you feel is fair and just laugh at those who would preferto be a member of the proletariat rather than a capitalist...



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Vodokar
Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:21 am
#6

Bottom line is that if you do any type of volume at all, you end up purchasing a lot of resources rather than bein able to harvest everything yourself. Also, unless you are capable of producing the BE tissues yourself, you have to buy that too. Its all expensive.


My guild BE told me that although she was selling to me at 40 - 50k a crate for tissues, the going rate is considered actually 150k a crate due to the pain in making them and getting the resources for them. At that rate, I really would have to charge 300k or more for a case of BE Brandy. Currently im asking 200k, but may have to go higher. But, i'm currently not selling the BE version outside our PA since just don't have the supply of tissues. I may very well have to go outside and pay 150k a crate just to get the excess tissues i need to sell to the public, in which case, I would be forced to raise my price to the public.


I harvest what I can, and my pa sometimes tosses me some meat or hides or whatever, but i still end up buying resources at every turn, often as high as 10 cpu or 20 cpu. My gosh, have you seen what people are asking for milk these days? Better than before, but still sometimes as high as 30 cpu.


So, that, I have to consider for my baseline lowest possible pricing and then figure in the stickability on the vendor factor on top of that.


It is a balence though. Being a longstanding and well known chef, I always shoot for the middle pricing of what people are charging. I don't want to be the most expensive or the least expensive. For the short term, there will be a wide difference in what people are charging, but gradually it will become a more narrow and accepted band as people learn from experience. Out of the gate, I just sort of picked a price at random that was above my expenses, which is 200 per use for non be and 400 per use for be. and watching closely peoples reactions.


One thing to keep in mind, people are really not used to this be vs non be and glass vs cask vs barral stuff, so they often just don't even realize what they are looking at when they make comment about a price. I don't think we need to justify why we price a certain thing a certain way, but we do need to help the consumer understand why one case is 30k and the other is 100k due to using different containers and the value the larger one brings them. Its all education of our customers to equip them with the knowledge they need in order to choose.





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