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Thread: About BoH/MW/VC/WW (Max Buff Combo's) filling/effect/duration

MsNiL
Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:41 am
#1



The use of theese buffs, at least in my opinion, is when you require a short duration but heavy buff. Even with 66 filling and 6 min you can still drink 2 Breath of Heaven right after eachother for 12-14min of fun. This heavy buff is what you use in demanding pvp or strong pve, often over before this short-buff runs out.


If you wait until the action starts before you take the buff and avoid taking them during downtime, you never run out of stomach.


So, my personal taste on BoH/MW is:
* Max out on Effect
* For Filling / Duration, make sure the filling*18 is less than the duration in seconds.


For VC/WW:
* Max out on Effect
* Put the rest on filling

Breath of Heaven + Vagnarian canape + Booster Blue
Buff for healers, such as doctors, combat medics and Jedi (more mind than action regen)
+~700 Health (+600)
+250 Health Regen (-600)
+200 Action Regen (+600)
+250 Mind Regen (+600)


Mandalorian Wine + Won Won + Neutron Pixie
Buff for non-healers (more action regen than mind).
+~700 Health (+600)
+250 Health Regen (+600)
+250 Action Regen (+600)
+200 Mind Regen (-600)


Final Note: If you want a long buff, Kanali Wafers+ Blob Candy + Spiced Tea is a better choice. Around 45min with maxed out effect. (Bofa Treat +Blob Candy + Caf for non-healers)


Message Edited by MsNiL on 07-19-2005 02:44 PM

Message Edited by MsNiL on 07-23-2005 03:20 PM



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Gotik-CH
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:35 am
#2


Thats good stuff. Great job! Makes my job a bit easier knowing what to keep stocked.. or knowing what to keep more heavily stocked.



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STLpMpNu
Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:36 am
#3

You can also run with the kanali wafers blop candy spiced tea. Then pop a mando wine if needed.


Downside is you can't pop a breath of heaven if you have a spiced tea in you.



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Bermag
Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:30 am
#4

How can you take 2 BoH/MW with 66 filling after each other? It will take 10 minutes to digest 33 filling so you can take another BoH/MW?



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MsNiL
Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:12 am
#5






Bermag wrote:

How can you take 2 BoH/MW with 66 filling after each other? It will take 10 minutes to digest 33 filling so you can take another BoH/MW?




Hmmm. You are right.

66 filling might be too much.




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Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
sciguyCO
Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:41 pm
#6






DrElJefeMD wrote:

By making your BOH/MW with only 49 or 50 fill like what I make





Ah, but then you're spending points to reduce fililng that may not be strictly necessary.


{yes, this is going to be yet another math-heavy post. Feel free to point and laugh at the number geek}


To be able to take two BoH / MW / Vercupti in a row, the filling and duration has to meet this criteria:



Filling - (Duration * 100 / 30 ) <= 100 - Filling


The initial filling minus the filling digested during the buff duration has to leave enough stomache room for an additional dose. Rearranging things gets us this:



2 * Filling - (Duration * 3.33 ) <= 100


You can obviously meet this criteria in one of two ways: increasing the duration, or reducing the filling. But points spent in filling or flavor adjust the stats by different relative amounts. I played around with my food calculator spreadsheet (adding the left side of the above equation as a new cell to watch how experimentation affected the "one after the other" criteria), and it looks like you get the best "bang for your points" by reducing the filling. Starting with 800 stat resources, it took only two points in filling (and none in flavor) to meet the criteria, vs. 6 points in duration and none in filling.


Some "chug-worthy" BoH numbers I came up with (all theoretical and using a 115 INN to boost the health buff):



  • 62 FIll / 7m18s / +472 (two points in fill, none in flavor, 8 in nutrition)

  • 64 Fill / 8m30s / +445 (1 point in fill, 3 in flavor, 6 in nutrition)

  • 64 Fill / 8m30s / +472 (1 point in fill, 3 in flavor, 8 in nutrition)

  • 66 Fill / 9m48s / +418 (0 points in fill, 6 in flavor, 4 in nutrition)

  • 66 Fill / 9m48s / +445 (0 points in fill, 6 in flavor, 6 in nutrition)

Personally, if I were a customer looking for this type of usage, I like the look of the 64 / 8m30s stuff as a good balance of duration / buff after the one-after-the-other criteria is met.


Sheesh, I'm such a nerd.






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whippet
Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:27 pm
#7

Yeah but.....



Its still a huge waste of stomache space comapred to the huge ammount of fast extra health offered by using low fill ruby bliel and good stim D's.


I can make 1500 power stims and 13 fill ruby.. do the math on that one its a whole lotta extra health.


I use a 33 fill, 10 mins mando wine, giving me +190 health with a 33 fill 10 mins won-won with +270 health. So i still get the benefit of +460 health AND, lots of space for ruby bliel, and either parwan or synth steak.


There is no other combo of food, that compares with this in my mind for high level pve or pvp.



I don't bother with anything like vayerbok, vegeparsine, elchandru as in my testing its all ineffective.
DrElJefeMD
Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:52 am
#8

By making your BOH/MW with only 49 or 50 fill like what I make


Regards


Dr. ElJefe MD (Retired)


Bermag
Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:50 am
#9

SciGuy,


yes right but having filling that high does not give you much room left for anything else. I prefer to have room for at least 1 or 2 ruby.


Also what I like (and hope to make) is to match BoH with Canapé in speed so when you take your third BoH you will also renew Canapé at same time. Having duration match each other (well as close as possible) make it easier when youneed to renew buffs in the middle of a fight.





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