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Thread: 2 hours after, does a patch not make- Yoda

Sykes
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:01 pm
#1

Lets all try to keep our chins up and give it 24-48 hours before trashing this patch. I for one felt VERY well prepared for all of these changes in great part to the hard work of those on TC and naturally our wonderfulSirVimes.


There are many Chefs who will not be able to test everything for a few hours due to RL, work etc. If you don't like it, take a day off. Let the dust settle. Find another master Chef in game and talk it out while trying stuff. See what works. 2 minds might work better than 1.


I for one will be spending the next 2-3 days evaluating EVERYTHING before coming to a conclusion that "This Sucks" or "Chef is Fooked".


We know it is not perfect. We know it is not all final. If anything, expect REAL issues with the revamp to be addressed sooner rather than later.


Just give it a chance folks and try to channel your anger in more constructive ways.



SYKES LIAISON

Master Chef and proprietor of... THE COPACABANA! Located in Polaris on Naboo


Dirtyspoon
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:06 pm
#2

I agree, i'm gonna go milk some unsuspecting animals today. I'll come back to chef tomorrow.





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fatgit
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:07 pm
#3

I agree to an extent, and Ive said so in my posts - it's early days.

However, some issues aren;t going to change, like Vercupti being the most useless master item since nemoidian bird cages.
GalinHawk
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:07 pm
#4



Sykes wrote:
...If you don't like it, take a day off. Let the dust settle....



Better yet - make some runs of Alcohol and large glasses. At least you can use them later on...



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MikaelGueck
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:12 pm
#5

What is this anger you are talking about?

I think the objective facts are pretty well established, and people are able to draw conclusions from those facts.

If I was a fan and had a part of my identity connected to the game, I probably would be unwilling or even unable to look at the facts, but as I'm just another customer playing this computer game for fun, I am able to look at the numbers and draw the conclusion that it would probably require a person much more dedicated than I to create fun in a place in which it's clearly not welcome.

If this is what SOE wishes the Chef profession to be, it's entirely up to them, I don't have their ear into which I could enumerate the unpleasant changes this publish forces into my play.

Message Edited by MikaelGueck on 02-11-2004 09:13 PM



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Sykes
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:15 pm
#6

One of the general issues many "Chefs" may have is that the easy way to profit is no longer there.


Master Chef + Fishak or GGP = 2-3 missions per crate sale (all while offline or doing something else).


People always resist change when first presented with it, and some choose to adapt to the environment instead of fighting it.


I may come back to the forums on Saturday with a Flamethrower in hand to camp the Dev Fort with the rest of you. Who knows.


Before Holo-grinding, chefs were rare. After Holo-fest 2003, Chefs were abundant and profitable due to people grinding other professions, and Chefs capitalizing on it.


No doubt this will be a temporary downtime for us, but we must remember that the entire combat system is getting overhauled which will indirectly magnify our buff impact.


/target Chin


/moveup 5




SYKES LIAISON

Master Chef and proprietor of... THE COPACABANA! Located in Polaris on Naboo


Phazon
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:17 pm
#7



Dirtyspoon wrote:
I agree, i'm gonna go milk some unsuspecting animals today. I'll come back to chef tomorrow.






I just tried milking some hervibores today from 11am to 1pm today. My Mask scent is up and NO MILKING OPTION. I hope they didn't forget to put it in.



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MikaelGueck
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:18 pm
#8


Sykes wrote:
People always resist change when first presented with it, and some choose to adapt to the environment instead of fighting it.
This is true, but it's equally true that there were people who thought Titanic was such a great ship it was unsinkable, and even when presented with evidence to the contrary, were unable to alter their opinion.



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Befishburger
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:24 pm
#9

Hell, I started with small glasses. Why use 10x the resources for 1 1/2x the boost? I don't have the lots neccesary to devote 10 heavy minerals to pulling gemstones.


I think chef has just gotten a hell of lot more challenging ... and I'm all for that. I agree totally with fatgit about the buff sizes. And some of the bugs are annoying.


But a challenging game is one that will engage me.There is going to be a muchgreater disparity between good and poor food, starting but not ending with BE addtives.Cranking out crate after crate of instantly selling fishak was easy, and made me rich - but had gotten very tiring. I'm going to have to look even deeper into niches .... and I think that's all good. If it means fewer chefs, that's good, too. I think it is really impossible to tell what all the implications of these new foods are going to be. Truthfully, the people I'm talking to are pretty keen onmany of thesebuffs. The excpetions being fishak addicts. But, some of us have been around long enough to remember speculation about this profession before the Fishak Bubble - Chef turned out to quite a different thing from what most had imagined - and I think that will be true again.


I've noticed that whenever anything gets tougher in this game (see CH nerf) a lot of people scream about it for a while ... but the difficulty makes for a more nuanced game.


Anyway...


Hero


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I mean ...Chef. Here comes the Chef.
Sykes
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:26 pm
#10

If this were a baseball game, we may be down 3-0 after the top of the first inning. Plenty of game left, plenty of chefs who have yet to come to the plate, and plenty of possibilities.


Titanic is a bit if of a stretch here. None of the passengers were given blue-prints before embarking on the journey. Ships didn't run daily from England to America back then and the movie wasn't realistic to passenger awareness either.





SYKES LIAISON

Master Chef and proprietor of... THE COPACABANA! Located in Polaris on Naboo


MikaelGueck
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:43 pm
#11


Sykes wrote:

If this were a baseball game, we may be down 3-0 after the top of the first inning. Plenty of game left, plenty of chefs who have yet to come to the plate, and plenty of possibilities.

Titanic is a bit if of a stretch here. None of the passengers were given blue-prints before embarking on the journey. Ships didn't run daily from England to America back then and the movie wasn't realistic to passenger awareness either.





I haven't seen the movie, so I'll take your word. I trust you got my point about facing the reality of a situation, though?


I'm not saying that there will be no chefs, I'm just saying that it looks like being a chef will require much more dedication than I'm willing to put into this computer game. As I've had fun as a chef through the periods when the food stacks were bugged and the food stats are bugged, this is saying a lot.


I believe that in general, Chefs have had an incredible amount of patience and forbearance and capacity to make their own fun, much more than is typical for gamers. If I was a SWG or SOE fan, I think I could stretch my patience pretty much infinitely, or as long as they are in business, but as I'm just another customer, I'm starting to have my doubts.




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