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Thread: How does dodge food work??!
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Ikas
Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:08 pm
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I'm curious to find out how food dodge works..
I performed a combat test with a jedi friend of mine on several various foods, and the dodge was the most outstanding.
In 10 seconds of combat, his jedi was able to hit my capped melee defense jedi 11 times, with 0 misses.
With 50 percent dodge food his jedi hit my jedi 10 times, with 1 miss.
Hardly a 50 percent difference, could be none at all! Keep in mind my jedi is capped melee defense so a miss here and there is likely...
Anyone have any idea how this works?
Numen
Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:15 pm
#2
First off I would recommend taking a larger sample. Someone a long long time ago did 100 attacks and came up with some decent numbers.
The food is suppose to increase the chances of an attack missing you. How this is actually done though is most likely not known.
I don't believe the food is going to increase your dodging up to 50% just like melee def food doesn't increase your melee defense up to 25. All foods seem to be additive of your current values. Therefore I would expect a 50% Pikatta Pie to increase your current dodging ability by 50%. So if you had a 2% chance before, you now have a 3% chance.
Sorry to be so vague on what is actually affects though. This seems to be an area that is "working as intended" and that is about all the devs will go into specifics.
Ikas
Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:33 pm
#3
In that case how would non-dodge users get the benefit from dodge food?
It's already proven that dodge food effects all professions.
Not just those who already have the dodge stat
Revan44
Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:41 pm
#4
i'm master fencer i've gone maybe 50 attacks without getting hit when having air cake
Ankor
Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:16 pm
#5
sciguyCO
Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:18 pm
#6
Good point, Ankor.
One of these days I'm going to do up a "Food 101" covering some of the odder foods like Air Cake/Pikkata/Fizz pudding, Parwan Nutricake, etc.
I think I can commit to having that done before the Combat Upgrade, how's that sound. 
Ikas
Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:17 pm
#7
Ankor wrote:
SciGuy, we REALLY need to add this to the FAQ. Or I need to start copy/pasting old posts rather than retyping explanations every time it comes up. Hmmm...
Read this
Or this
Hmm ok thanks for the explanation... My jedi still got very little results from it during the test, but I only took 10 second samples so I probably would have seen better results had I taken more, thx, plus jedi have extremely potent accuracy (only 100 yet they hardly ever miss another jedi with capped melee defense).
Ankor
Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:19 pm
#8
Jedi have high acc. mods on thier specials, which could account for your test results.
The easiest way to see the difference is to get out and get yourself surrounded by 5 or 6 things that are beating you up, eat Pikata (or Fizz Pudding if you really want to see a difference, I suppose), and notice how much less damage you take all of a sudden. People have done more scientific testing than this, but the difference really is so obvious as to prevent the need for actually digging through combat spam and counting up hits and misses.
The easiest way to see the difference is to get out and get yourself surrounded by 5 or 6 things that are beating you up, eat Pikata (or Fizz Pudding if you really want to see a difference, I suppose), and notice how much less damage you take all of a sudden. People have done more scientific testing than this, but the difference really is so obvious as to prevent the need for actually digging through combat spam and counting up hits and misses.
Wengel
Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:54 pm
#9
ok... i did a little test on this a week ago.
My jedi is MLS, MHealer, 4004 enhancer.
I have 20 melee defense from Force Sensitive skills, which means basically no defenses.
I fought a guildmate... Master Sword with at least +10 accuracy and so on, and various other melee skills, but it's the swordsman accuracy we're talking about here.
I ate 1 pikatta pie with 55% dodge.
During the fight, he attacked 48 times.
26 hits.
22 misses.
Since i have absolutely no kind of passive defenses vs melee chars, and my melee defense won't help at all vs any master melee char's accuracy.
Since this shows a lot more than the 5% miss-change that all attack has, i'd say it works as intended.
It's a chance to dodge, and the calculation is just a roll weather or not your enemy hits you.
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