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Thread: Synthsteak and Exo Protein Wafers
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RogueJGK
Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:48 pm
#1
Does anyone know if it is a bug or intended that the pre-CU number of attacks blocked by both Synthsteak and Exo Protein Wafers converted into the duration of the food? If so, then both of these foods have become pretty much worthless because Synthsteak lasts about 38 seconds now and Exo Protein Wafers last about 19 seconds now.
Higginsis
Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:12 pm
#2
Its a known issue, and we're hoping its a bug.
The devs know of it, not gotten a reply on whether its intended or not.
The devs know of it, not gotten a reply on whether its intended or not.
I_Zombi
Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:17 pm
#3
Looks to me like it was intentional 
all of my wafers/steak/flameout has the exact same stats except "seconds" have been subbed in for "# of attacks."
all of my wafers/steak/flameout has the exact same stats except "seconds" have been subbed in for "# of attacks." Another thing I noticed bout the conversion process is that it totally sucks. Imagine that. For some reason my pikatta pie all got taken from 54% to 50% for no apparant reason. With the same resources as before I can craft the exact same pikatta as I did before. It's just the converted stuff has been reduced inexplicably. My old +25, 25 filling vegeparsine converted into +80, 25 filling vegeparsine too. I thought that was fantastic until I made some new Vegeparsine and it got to +98 melee defense before I even capped nutrition.
I do have a question bout pyollian cake and bespin port tho. It seems they now have a duration that cant be experimented on... when I saw that I got all excited that they might not go away after every use... maybe they just work constant for that full 20min. But they don't... they work exactly the same as before. I don't really see why they would bother giving them a duration if the duration doesn't mean anything, so I'm wondering if this is a bug and they're supposed to work constant for their full duration, regardless of how many times they're used. Any thoughts?
audioslaves
Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:27 pm
#4
I_Zombi wrote:
Looks to me like it was intentional
Another thing I noticed bout the conversion process is that it totally sucks. Imagine that. For some reason my pikatta pie all got taken from 54% to 50% for no apparant reason. With the same resources as before I can craft the exact same pikatta as I did before. It's just the converted stuff has been reduced inexplicably. My old +25, 25 filling vegeparsine converted into +80, 25 filling vegeparsine too. I thought that was fantastic until I made some new Vegeparsine and it got to +98 melee defense before I even capped nutrition.
I do have a question bout pyollian cake and bespin port tho. It seems they now have a duration that cant be experimented on... when I saw that I got all excited that they might not go away after every use... maybe they just work constant for that full 20min. But they don't... they work exactly the same as before. I don't really see why they would bother giving them a duration if the duration doesn't mean anything, so I'm wondering if this is a bug and they're supposed to work constant for their full duration, regardless of how many times they're used. Any thoughts?
Try taking it out of the crate. As has already been stated by several of us - when you take it out of the crate it gets the real stats. Any singles got the wrong stats. Also, the last item in the crate will get the wrong stats as well.
What I don't get about the bespin is it's +24 now..at least the +12 stuff I make is. Does that mean it actually works better cause uh? It really didn't. /shrug
sciguyCO
Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:39 pm
#5
The "20 minute" duration on Port and Cake is apparently just a display of something that was a little "hidden" before. It still only lasts until the next experiment/assembly, but if you don't use it within 20 minutes it wears off. Prior to CU, triggered foods like that would last for an hour, so that has been reduced, but it's not too big of an issue with those two foods. It does limit Starshine and Cavalian Cremes a bit, since you used to get the incap reduction bonus anytime up to an hour after taking it, and now it's only 20 minutes. But with the extremely short incap times we have now anyway, those foods are pretty useless.
The food conversion was seriously wonky. You do get the benefit of the experimentation/tissues you put into it originally, but the displayed stats of uncrated food (and crates until you extract a stack) appears to be stuck at 50% Nut / 50% Flavor experimentation, and I'm not sure if the tissue bonus is taken into account or not. I'm also not sure if this is only a display bug or if it actually affects the bonus.
I_Zombi
Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:32 pm
#6
yeah Lark thanks. I noticed that right after I un-minimized (word?) SWG. The food still says the wrong stat but when you eat it the buff indicates it has the correct one. Still it's bugged to hell.. ruby bliel disappears after the first time you use a stim (intended?), vegeparsine disappears everytime i shuttle. Ugh... so frustrating
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