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Thread: Nothing STACKS? am i wrong....please tell me i am wrong lol
Your using the lowest buff foods possible so they are not going to be as effective. As far as what stacks and what does not stack I have not tested this and can not comment on that part of it. I know that if you are looking for a more effective buff try using Mando Wine and Vercpti for starts they are more powerful than the light additive foods you where using.
Message Edited by Sativaa on 04-29-2005 04:22 AM
Groid wrote:
I disagree with Sativaa, based on MY testing of foods post cu, most regeneration foods are very similiar. Vercupti only gives an action regen of 50, and that bar seems to be the one needed most right now. I would suggest Accaragm (healthregen 105/actionregen 200/mindregen 200).
Mokianna-bria
Yah Actually I Kind of disagree with her as well LOL ....yes Vercupti looks nice for the health buff but the FILL and the REGEN EEPPSS ...havent' tested mando wine yet but....the old fill for me was never under 50 either......and i was testing the foods that took the LFA hoping that they might stack ...cuz HAD they stacked the buffs and REGEN would have been KILLER and the FILL the FILL is the real selling point on most of those......leaves room for all kinds of other yummy goodies lol but oh well 
Good call on the ACCARAGM , i will try it when the server comes back up
MeciniaLua wrote:
Food and Drink that buff even one stat that is the same no longer stack at all.
I found the same thing with my TKA. If they overlap in what they buff, they do not stack.
Whether this is an intended feature or a bug, is hard to say.
C
I realize we don't have an answer yet from the devs but... I would be very surprised if they come out and say the no-stacking isn't deliberate.
Why else would they add a measly +50 whatever to things? It's to deliberately make you choose which food/drink you can use and not be able to use others.
If they come out and change it great - but I wouldn't hold my breath.
xDiggerx wrote:
We may have to split our crates up into 5/10/15 batches but I disagree that sales will suffer. The fact is people still have stomach fill and drink fill that they can use. Instead of taking 3 ahrisa now for a stomach fill they will just take say 1 ahrisa and then fill in with other items, more defense oriented foods. Or accuracy foods. Or damage mitigation foods.
We may have to split our crates up into 5/10/15 batches but I disagree that sales will suffer. The fact is people still have stomach fill and drink fill that they can use. Instead of taking 3 ahrisa now for a stomach fill they will just take say 1 ahrisa and then fill in with other items, more defense oriented foods. Or accuracy foods. Or damage mitigation foods.
From day 1 it was clear the direction of the CU was to do away with huge 5K HAM's on folks and everyone jockying to get the biggest HAM bar. It puts everyone on a more even playing field. Now folks will be getting the standard HAM bar with medical and food help...then determining based on who/what they will be fighting what other foods would compliment them. As a rifleman with my alt I was taking Vayerbok (+ to block) last night and also Pikatta Pie (+ to Dodge) and seeing them very impactful in helping me withstand damage/attack. The added stomach room also allowed me to drop some of my synthsteak for additional benefit.
So foods and stomach fill will still be critical. With doc buffs less dramatic foods in fact might be even more important. Many foodsdon't stack like they use to. So what. It just means there are more options for folks now and the only drawback might be you have to stock more variety of foods instead of 80% of your sales going to brandy, ahrisa, canape and bivoli (which was pretty much how my food vendor went). If anything the importance of food may increase and having the RIGHT foods in your inventory will be really critical..which means more food inventory and variety being carried by each player so they are prepared for various scenerios.
Everyone cheer up. This isa great opportunity for chef's to try out some new foods and help position the foods with combat folks in terms of how they can use them, combo them with other foods, etc...
Sativaa wrote:
xDiggerx wrote:
We may have to split our crates up into 5/10/15 batches but I disagree that sales will suffer. The fact is people still have stomach fill and drink fill that they can use. Instead of taking 3 ahrisa now for a stomach fill they will just take say 1 ahrisa and then fill in with other items, more defense oriented foods. Or accuracy foods. Or damage mitigation foods.
From day 1 it was clear the direction of the CU was to do away with huge 5K HAM's on folks and everyone jockying to get the biggest HAM bar. It puts everyone on a more even playing field. Now folks will be getting the standard HAM bar with medical and food help...then determining based on who/what they will be fighting what other foods would compliment them. As a rifleman with my alt I was taking Vayerbok (+ to block) last night and also Pikatta Pie (+ to Dodge) and seeing them very impactful in helping me withstand damage/attack. The added stomach room also allowed me to drop some of my synthsteak for additional benefit.
So foods and stomach fill will still be critical. With doc buffs less dramatic foods in fact might be even more important. Many foodsdon't stack like they use to. So what. It just means there are more options for folks now and the only drawback might be you have to stock more variety of foods instead of 80% of your sales going to brandy, ahrisa, canape and bivoli (which was pretty much how my food vendor went). If anything the importance of food may increase and having the RIGHT foods in your inventory will be really critical..which means more food inventory and variety being carried by each player so they are prepared for various scenerios.
Everyone cheer up. This isa great opportunity for chef's to try out some new foods and help position the foods with combat folks in terms of how they can use them, combo them with other foods, etc...
/agree
Thank you I was beginning to believe I was the only one left who thinks we are not that bad off.
All thees noOb Dr Doom chefs that only know how to make brandy and think our prof is now useless are making us look bad, and giving other players completely thewrong impression!
Anyone coming to the chef forums looking for advice on food is only going to see all this silly crying and think chef is really hurting when that is the farthest from the truth. Sure there are bugs to be worked out but what do you expect after such a big update. There are plenty of good useful foods and any player that is trying to get that extra edge and be on top of his game is still going to use foods.
I just wish the few cry baby chefs would stop to think a little, and quit making us look so bad to everyone on our forums.
LOL first you are a meanie.......I made way more than just BRANDY AND CANAPE.....and i enjoyed being chef....i wasn't the best of the BEST..... but i tried hard and spent alot of time playing my chef toon.....
Secondly.......do you not foresee the same problem happening again.....?? i mean foods/drinks do not stack...so people are only going to WANT THE BEST product that provides the BEST BANG FOR THIER BUCK....meaning you will see more NOW than ever that only few foods sell....just as before (it may indeed be worse than before...i mean playing my combat toon these past few days i haven't even USED foods/drinks.....and in some cases i did fine without it)...this problem with not go away with the CU.
LASTLY...i am not trying to MAKE chef look bad...I am trying to FIGURE out how we FIT in with the NEW UPGRADE......and looking to network with my peers i meant no offence or disrepect to you or any other player.......and how about rather than just bashing me.....provide me with some useful insight oh MASTER CHEF on how you see things for our profession and what will be useful and not useful .....i may have not played since DAY one of SWG...but i have been in the chef world for a year so i know a lil bit about what's was going on with our profession....just trying to figure out where we are heading....what lies ahead of us......
CaraAnam wrote:
Sativaa wrote:
xDiggerx wrote:
We may have to split our crates up into 5/10/15 batches but I disagree that sales will suffer. The fact is people still have stomach fill and drink fill that they can use. Instead of taking 3 ahrisa now for a stomach fill they will just take say 1 ahrisa and then fill in with other items, more defense oriented foods. Or accuracy foods. Or damage mitigation foods.
From day 1 it was clear the direction of the CU was to do away with huge 5K HAM's on folks and everyone jockying to get the biggest HAM bar. It puts everyone on a more even playing field. Now folks will be getting the standard HAM bar with medical and food help...then determining based on who/what they will be fighting what other foods would compliment them. As a rifleman with my alt I was taking Vayerbok (+ to block) last night and also Pikatta Pie (+ to Dodge) and seeing them very impactful in helping me withstand damage/attack. The added stomach room also allowed me to drop some of my synthsteak for additional benefit.
So foods and stomach fill will still be critical. With doc buffs less dramatic foods in fact might be even more important. Many foodsdon't stack like they use to. So what. It just means there are more options for folks now and the only drawback might be you have to stock more variety of foods instead of 80% of your sales going to brandy, ahrisa, canape and bivoli (which was pretty much how my food vendor went). If anything the importance of food may increase and having the RIGHT foods in your inventory will be really critical..which means more food inventory and variety being carried by each player so they are prepared for various scenerios.
Everyone cheer up. This isa great opportunity for chef's to try out some new foods and help position the foods with combat folks in terms of how they can use them, combo them with other foods, etc...
/agree
Thank you I was beginning to believe I was the only one left who thinks we are not that bad off.
All thees noOb Dr Doom chefs that only know how to make brandy and think our prof is now useless are making us look bad, and giving other players completely thewrong impression!
Anyone coming to the chef forums looking for advice on food is only going to see all this silly crying and think chef is really hurting when that is the farthest from the truth. Sure there are bugs to be worked out but what do you expect after such a big update. There are plenty of good useful foods and any player that is trying to get that extra edge and be on top of his game is still going to use foods.
I just wish the few cry baby chefs would stop to think a little, and quit making us look so bad to everyone on our forums.
LOL first you are a meanie.......I made way more than just BRANDY AND CANAPE.....and i enjoyed being chef....i wasn't the best of the BEST..... but i tried hard and spent alot of time playing my chef toon.....
Secondly.......do you not foresee the same problem happening again.....?? i mean foods/drinks do not stack...so people are only going to WANT THE BEST product that provides the BEST BANG FOR THIER BUCK....meaning you will see more NOW than ever that only few foods sell....just as before (it may indeed be worse than before...i mean playing my combat toon these past few days i haven't even USED foods/drinks.....and in some cases i did fine without it)...this problem with not go away with the CU.
LASTLY...i am not trying to MAKE chef look bad...I am trying to FIGURE out how we FIT in with the NEW UPGRADE......and looking to network with my peers i meant no offence or disrepect to you or any other player.......and how about rather than just bashing me.....provide me with some useful insight oh MASTER CHEF on how you see things for our profession and what will be useful and not useful .....i may have not played since DAY one of SWG...but i have been in the chef world for a year so i know a lil bit about what's was going on with our profession....just trying to figure out where we are heading....what lies ahead of us......
/agree
I find that people need to look at the long term survivability of our profession, not just the short term.
I haven't given up chef, I haven't ever dropped a profession I've mastered, I just don't see us being as profitable as we were in the past, and we may need to branch out into other things or scale back our factories.
xDiggerx wrote:
We may have to split our crates up into 5/10/15 batches but I disagree that sales will suffer. The fact is people still have stomach fill and drink fill that they can use. Instead of taking 3 ahrisa now for a stomach fill they will just take say 1 ahrisa and then fill in with other items, more defense oriented foods. Or accuracy foods. Or damage mitigation foods.
From day 1 it was clear the direction of the CU was to do away with huge 5K HAM's on folks and everyone jockying to get the biggest HAM bar. It puts everyone on a more even playing field. Now folks will be getting the standard HAM bar with medical and food help...then determining based on who/what they will be fighting what other foods would compliment them. As a rifleman with my alt I was taking Vayerbok (+ to block) last night and also Pikatta Pie (+ to Dodge) and seeing them very impactful in helping me withstand damage/attack. The added stomach room also allowed me to drop some of my synthsteak for additional benefit.
So foods and stomach fill will still be critical. With doc buffs less dramatic foods in fact might be even more important. Many foodsdon't stack like they use to. So what. It just means there are more options for folks now and the only drawback might be you have to stock more variety of foods instead of 80% of your sales going to brandy, ahrisa, canape and bivoli (which was pretty much how my food vendor went). If anything the importance of food may increase and having the RIGHT foods in your inventory will be really critical..which means more food inventory and variety being carried by each player so they are prepared for various scenerios.
Everyone cheer up. This isa great opportunity for chef's to try out some new foods and help position the foods with combat folks in terms of how they can use them, combo them with other foods, etc...
/agree
Thank you I was beginning to believe I was the only one left who thinks we are not that bad off.
All thees noOb Dr Doom chefs that only know how to make brandy and think our prof is now useless are making us look bad, and giving other players completely thewrong impression! 
Anyone coming to the chef forums looking for advice on food is only going to see all this silly crying and think chef is really hurting when that is the farthest from the truth. Sure there are bugs to be worked out but what do you expect after such a big update. There are plenty of good useful foods and any player that is trying to get that extra edge and be on top of his game is still going to use foods.
I just wish the few cry baby chefs would stop to think a little, and quit making us look so bad to everyone on our forums. 
Excuse me? So what, because we're not being Pollyanna about the bugs and changes we're "cry babies" and "noobs"? Right. I'm not giving up on chef yet but I don't need to be put down by you just because I'm not all cheery about it either. My menu used to consist of 39 items - and that's not including multiple variations of several foods. I was never a "brandy" chef so I find your assumption about everyone who doesn't think chef in the CU is the greatest thing ever rather narrow-minded and condescending.
Sativaa wrote:
/agree
Thank you I was beginning to believe I was the only one left who thinks we are not that bad off.
All thees noOb Dr Doom chefs that only know how to make brandy and think our prof is now useless are making us look bad, and giving other players completely thewrong impression!
Anyone coming to the chef forums looking for advice on food is only going to see all this silly crying and think chef is really hurting when that is the farthest from the truth. Sure there are bugs to be worked out but what do you expect after such a big update. There are plenty of good useful foods and any player that is trying to get that extra edge and be on top of his game is still going to use foods.
I just wish the few cry baby chefs would stop to think a little, and quit making us look so bad to everyone on our forums.