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LizzyB

Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:25 am

I have almost mastered BE and I am going to make Neutrients. What I want to know is what is a reasonable price to ask for my neutrients. I am only interested in covering my costs and making a small proffit. I would rather help out chef's and try and keep you food costs down.

I have a factory so I will be able to make crates.

Let me know what prices you are looking at.

Thanks

Uzziss

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emankov

Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:51 am

#2

Well i find this a GOOD question..

I just start a cooperation with a MBE in Bria..i put him make some crates of heavy Enchancements to test them in my food..

we agreed in 25k per crate for the heavies...soon he will make crates of Medium...

My experiments show great improvements of the stats ( like +400 Vassarian with 49 filling). The problem relies in the complexity of the system...those enchancements have their own stats. The MBE can make them enchance quantity, nutrition or Filling, plus that a Chef needs an extra factory run to produce them in crates...so the final food price will go sky high and puts the need of BE food (from the customers view), at question..

Oh and something else...u cannot use Heavy Enchancementsin the medium slot or vice versa..u have to be exact.

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Gracchus

Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:43 am

#3

Right now I'm paying my guys approximately 33% of the sale price for the finished product that the BE item was used in. I'm gonna try and keep my prices in line with this.

I talked with some guys on the BE forum and they were concerned that they were not sharing in the huge profits that some chefs were making on items that wouldnt be half as valuable. So they are charging 1k per tissue for lites, 2k per tissue for med and 3k per tissue for heavy on some servers.3 BEs from 3 servers quoted this to me. If this pattern becomes the norm it would become impracticle to use heavy additives.

Lets take a moment to try and determine the cost to the BE using the cpu formula for ingredients used. This seems to be the best way as such things as time, equipment cost, and energy costs are much harder to quantify. Assuming that the BE has access to flora farms I think its reasonable to set the price for flora/org requirments at 5cpu and as a catchall for the creature food requirement I think im safe with 30cpu. I will base this on a factory run of 1000 tissue units.

Using the nutrition adds as an example:

Micronut supps. 15meat+ 35org/flora *1000 units = 450k for meat + 175k for org/flora or 625k cost per 1000 units (40crates)

Broad specs. 20meat+ 60org/flora *1000 units = 600k for meat + 300k for org/flora or 900k cost per 1000 units (40crates)

Intell nanonuts.20meat+ 90org/flora * 1000 units= 600k for meat + 450k for org/flora or 1,050,000 per 1000 units (40crates)

It seems to me that this is a pretty good estimate of his cost taking into consideration the hidden variables such as how much equipment he is running and how much he is paying for meat. I admit there will be a broad varience with these factors. Taking these things into account I dont think an experienced BE would balk at these numbers. In factthe accomplishedBE who is in the business to take advantage of this new chef market would find ways to reduce these costs.

Now lets take these numbers and add our own ingredient costs using the same 5cpu for flora and 30cpu for meat we use in our recipes and see if my price schedule works (cost of BE product 33% of cost of chef finished product) or, chef product is 3 times the cost of the BE product.

I'll take 2 popular examples: Vasarian brandy (large glass)and citrus snowcake: I'll begin with the cpu costs only for the entire factory (full schematic) run of 1000 units or 40 crates using the medium nutrition add (broad spectrum). I'll leave the cpu multiplier out of the equation to save space.

Vasarian brandy 60flora * 1000 units = 300k for flora+ 900k cost of the broad spec or 1,200,000 for cpu cost of 40 crates

snowcake 55flora * 1000 units = 275k for flora + 900k cost of the broad spec or 1,175,000 for cpu cost of 40 crates

Rather then break down every item like this I'm comfortable with using the vasarian brandy as the mean or middle point for those chef items not using creature food or structural. My first instinct would be to [triple] theingredient costto come up with the retail price for the item (this is commonly done in the restaurant business). The breakdown is 33% food cost, 33% labor cost, and the remainder fixed and variable cost (utilities and maintenance). So your profit is your salary drawn from thelabor cost and whatever is left from fixed and variable.

cost times 3 or 3 * 1,200,000 = 3,600,000 divided by 40(crates) is 90k per crate of vas brandy or snowcake.

Now lets look at what we actually pay for the broad spectrum and add that in the formula. A good average cost to us for the broad specrum is 40k per crate:

40k * 40 crates (1000 units) = 1,600,000

Ok so our BE friend is charging 1,600,000 for a product that cost him 900k so his mark up is just under 44% or 700k perfactory runover his material cost. lets see how this effects the price of our brandy:

cost of broad spec 1,600,000 + our flora cost 300k equals 1,900,000

cost times 3 = 5,700,000 for 1000 units divided by 40(crates) = 142.5k for a crate of vas brandy

quite a difference. As we can see the BE products play a huge (disproportionate)role in determining how much we charge for our products. However 40k per crate for the broad spectrums is not bad and allows the BE to earn a decent profit.

I'm currently charging 150k for a 10use (large glass) crate and 120k for a small glass crate and 120k for all foods requiring the broad spectrum per crate. After looking at this I will discontinue the small glass crates and charge 120k for all crates requiring broad spectrum whether food or drink.

Gracchus

Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:37 pm

#4

I reduced my price for 10use crate of 25 (drinks of any type) to 125k using the BE broad spectrum nutrients

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