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Tendeep

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:24 pm

Hello everyone,

This is my first post on this board, although I have been reading day in and day out for the past few months. There is something that has been bothering me for some time now, and any feedback is welcome.

I have never devoted any time to a crafting prof in my entire been here since day 1 life in SWG...but, recently a guild member of mine mentioned how much fun he had with the Chef profession and that I should give it a try before doing any other crafting prof.

I love it... long story short

I am almost to master now and have no desire to stop making foods, I get a strange kick out of hoping that some day I can build a customer base, even if it is a small one.

Ok, now to the "There is something that has been bothering me" part of my story... will I be able to survive as a new Chef?

I have spent a great numer of hours and even more money to work my way to Master Chef, but when I first started the profession I did not know how much of an influence Bio-E enhancers would play a role on the Chef profession. Almost around every corner are vendors with enhanced food...I mean crate after crate (its like the stuff grows on trees)and so forth. I do not have the money to purchase these parts from a Bio-E, nor do I know any... I am afraid that I will not be able to survive against all of the current Chefs. So I ask for your feedback...Is there any hope for a new chef?

The one and only,

Konartist - Member of Legion

The one and only,

::Konartist:: ::Bloodfin::

benchmark44

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:51 pm

#2

first of all, grats on getting so far up the profession and loving it.

now to your question. yes you can have a customer base, but BE enhanced food makes it literally 100x bigger if your good. As you said, if you are purley crafting i would take up some BE to get the enhancements, or you can always buy them to, do not fret, you will get a base no matter what, just how big is the question

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NicoDimus

Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:02 pm

#3

Take heart. Every master chef had to be in the same spot youre in now to get to where hes is. I had the same trouble in fact. And i am not in a guild, so contacts were few and far between.

My advice:

1) Start small. Dont expect to compete with the top chefs right away. Make a few brandys or other top sellers and place them on a variety of bazaars. this will get you a few credits to start you off.

2) Bio-Engineers. Find one. Two at the most. Make freinds with him/her. Ask him what he needs (usually carnivore meat) and offer to hunt for him. In exchange, i bet he would be willing to make a few Broad-Specrtrum Nutrient crates for you free of charge. You will soon have an important ally on your side in the competitive world you have just entered.

3) Theres no reason you CANT sell non-BE food. Ormachek, for example doesnt even use them. Try the artisan line foods. They dont HAVE to have additives to sell, and they take very little ingredients to make.

4) Learn the profession. As a master chef, you will periodically recieve questions from players about certain foods. ALWAYS have the answer. They will appreciate it, and remember your name. If you make a usefull suggestion to a player about food combos, and are able to provide it for them (or direct them to a place), youll have a customer for life.

5) Diversify. Even when your small. Offer variety. Everybody sells brandy. If youre one of the chefs that only offers brandy, you will only keep a customer untill they need another food, then they will just go to the place where they can get everything at once. I recently won a customer becouse i was the only vendor he found that offered Veronian Berry Wine. Dont ask me why he wanted it. It doesnt matter, the customer is always right.

6) Most importantly....Be nice. Funny thing about this community. Reputations stick

Game Name = Nico

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Chiannie

Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:14 pm

#4

NicoDimus wrote:

Take heart. Every master chef had to be in the same spot youre in now to get to where hes is. I had the same trouble in fact. And i am not in a guild, so contacts were few and far between.

My advice:

1) Start small. Dont expect to compete with the top chefs right away. Make a few brandys or other top sellers and place them on a variety of bazaars. this will get you a few credits to start you off.

...

5) Diversify. Even when your small. Offer variety. Everybody sells brandy. If youre one of the chefs that only offers brandy, you will only keep a customer untill they need another food, then they will just go to the place where they can get everything at once. I recently won a customer becouse i was the only vendor he found that offered Veronian Berry Wine. Dont ask me why he wanted it. It doesnt matter, the customer is always right.

For a new chef looking to get a start, I would actually respectfully disgree with point 5. The vast majority of the non-standard foods don't sell all that well and a new chef might not be able to have large amounts of inventory sitting around to offer variety.

I would personally suggest sticking to the basics until you are better established.

To me THE most important factor for a new chef is location, location, location. Get a vendor with a global listing and put it somewhere high traffic -- particularly on a non-starter world. People are always running out of food and want to go somewhere nearby to buy. Given that, you can charge high margins for providing such a convenience.

Chiannie
12 Point Master Chef
Vendors at -3546, 3732 right outside Theed, Naboo
Brandy, Bivoli, Canape, Ahrisa, Synthsteak, Thakitillo, Ithorian Mist,
Exo-Protein Wafers, Havla and More!

Numen

Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:42 pm

#5

Chiannie wrote:

NicoDimus wrote:

Take heart. Every master chef had to be in the same spot youre in now to get to where hes is. I had the same trouble in fact. And i am not in a guild, so contacts were few and far between.

My advice:

1) Start small. Dont expect to compete with the top chefs right away. Make a few brandys or other top sellers and place them on a variety of bazaars. this will get you a few credits to start you off.

...

5) Diversify. Even when your small. Offer variety. Everybody sells brandy. If youre one of the chefs that only offers brandy, you will only keep a customer untill they need another food, then they will just go to the place where they can get everything at once. I recently won a customer becouse i was the only vendor he found that offered Veronian Berry Wine. Dont ask me why he wanted it. It doesnt matter, the customer is always right.

For a new chef looking to get a start, I would actually respectfully disgree with point 5. The vast majority of the non-standard foods don't sell all that well and a new chef might not be able to have large amounts of inventory sitting around to offer variety.

I would personally suggest sticking to the basics until you are better established.

To me THE most important factor for a new chef is location, location, location. Get a vendor with a global listing and put it somewhere high traffic -- particularly on a non-starter world. People are always running out of food and want to go somewhere nearby to buy. Given that, you can charge high margins for providing such a convenience.

Completely agree. When I go out shopping for things(weapons, armor, droids, whatever), the first thing that will turn me away from a vendor is being out of the top products. This doesn't mean I won't stop back later, but I may look elsewhere also.

Start out with 3-6 good foods. You can go more if you want, the number doesn't really matter. Just as long as you know you can keep up. If something runs out in 3 days and you making a new run every 5 days, something is wrong to me.

This however is only one view. I prefer to attempt to keep a full vendor of everything I stock. I may not have everything a customer wants, but what I do have, I try to keep some on the vendor at all times. You will never be perfect though. Due to the Tempest players huge taste for sweats and apparent drinking problem I have run out of many things on occasion. hehe

But in general if someone knows you will normally have what they want on your vendor, they will continue to shop with you. They would rather not go around to 10 vendors looking everytime they need food, they would like to always be able to come to one and know it is there.

Amandil Morier - Tempest - Master Chef

Tendeep

Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:13 pm

#6

I would like to thank everyone for posting and the advice given.

For a while I was starting to feel like working toward Master Chef would be a lost cause, but after hearing what everyone had to say, I am very excited to hit the master level and start producing goods.

I will take this one day at a time and try not to get ahead of myself as mentioned "Starting Small" sounds like the way to go

.

This may at first be a challenge, but after reading the comments, I feel like I will be able to face it head on.

Once again, Thank you everyone !

I look forward to becoming a more active member on these forums as well as in game.

The one and only,

Konartist - Member of Legion - Bloodfin

The one and only,

::Konartist:: ::Bloodfin::

ShAdOw_00

Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:55 am

#7

welcome to the boards.

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Tendeep

Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:40 am

#8

Thanks Shadow, btw, nice quote hehe

The one and only,

::Konartist:: ::Bloodfin::

Tendeep

Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:45 pm

#9

Well, I hit Master today, let the fun begin

Once again thanks to those who provided feedback

The one and only,

::Konartist:: ::Bloodfin::

rgrocott

Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:47 pm

#10

One thing that I did when starting out, was to use inferior BE additives bought cheaply off non-Master (or newly-mastered)BEs. This works out great for both of you, and can be a truly productive arrangement in both the short, and long term.

If you're making something where there aren't many points in the buff (as a rule, 'skill-boosting' foods like veghash, bespin port, that sort of thing, as opposed to stat-boosters like brandy and canape) then an inferior additive may only result in one or two points difference from the results a 'premium' additive would give you.

Good luck - it really is a lot of fun, just don't expect overnight success, and you will get there sooner than you might think

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