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Thread: Lowest fill on ruby bliel.

MTVGeneration
Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:24 pm
#14




Stewbacca96 wrote:




MTVGeneration wrote:

Is it worth using the reduced filling additives as I get 16 without with pretty good res. is the extra 3-4 worth it?




If you sell it for a lot more, or if you use it yourself, then yes... just up to you, if you have the resources to make it with the filling additives there's certainly a market for it. Some people will pay a ton just to get the best of the best, usually for pvp.




Interesting. I am selling my Ruby Bliel at 100k with Filling 16. If i had to use the low filling tissues I would imagine that I would ahve to increase the price due to the cost of the meats....



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Bockeroo
Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:07 pm
#15

Stewbacca96 wrote:

Bockeroo wrote:

Stewbacca96 wrote:

Bockeroo wrote:
i can get 15 with no fill additives
hmmm really? Thats' good to know... guess my water could improve a little bit... can you list what resources you used to hit 15 fill?




Water

DR: 946
OQ: 934

Fruit:

DR: 837
FL: 909
PE: 988
OQ: 953

all amazing experimentations
hmmmm my resources are better and i don't get 15 Fill... just 16... My water is about the same, with a higher OQ, and my fruit is 993 DR and 993 OQ.... Or am I mistaken with the Filling formula on the artisan foods, is it not 75 DR 25 OQ???




doh your right. i had all those resource stats written down and had only got 16 fill when i tried it ingame /bitetoungue guess i should have tried it before i posted it 



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Bockeroo
Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:12 pm
#16
i did get 15 fill with the additives. that is what i was thinking about 



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SioBabble
Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:47 pm
#17




MTVGeneration wrote:

Is it worth using the reduced filling additives as I get 16 without with pretty good res. is the extra 3-4 worth it?




Honestly, I don't think it is. The resources invested in the BE additives are way out of proportion to the benefit. I've seen this with blob candy, the beneift of a nutritional supplement is much more apparent than the benefit of a filling supplement.




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Stewbacca96
Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:06 pm
#18




Bockeroo wrote:




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doh your right. i had all those resource stats written down and had only got 16 fill when i tried it ingame /bitetoungue guess i should have tried it before i posted it






doh, was hoping you were right, i just tried again, and with these resources i still get 16 fill, at 98% experimentation on filling


Water: 992 OQ / 962 DR
Berries: 993 OQ / 993 DR


And whoever asked about the additives, I used 13 power on mine... and yes it should cost a lot more even for 3 less filling because of the meat you have to put into it, and the rarity of the special additives. Unless you have a huge stockpile of dom. meat and wild meat, i wouldn't even sell this retail... as the price I would charge would probably be higher than most would pay... I'll hafta have my rangers keep an eye out for the meat, tho, cuz it would be nice to be able to mass produce this at 13 fill


Stewbacca96
Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:47 pm
#19

Ok so I wasted 3 resource crates and am still stuck at 13 power additives, and 13 filling ruby bliel... here's the resources I used... for your reference... Wild and Domesticated meat seem to be gated a bit so not sure if we'll be able to get any higher than 13....


Organic: Tubers - 1000OQ 953PE 872FL
Wild Meat: 983OQ 873PE 614FL (gated on FL?)
Domesticated Meat: 943OQ 515PE 898FL (gated on PE?)


This experiments filling up to 88% but still only 13 power Filling Additives. According to the SWG Chef Tools spreadsheet, this should make 14 power filling add's, but it doesnt come out right... I usually have this problem with the spreadsheet. There must be a calculation wrong somewhere... I know there was a problem with Domesticated meat, it was marked to require 15 instead of 20, but changing that doesn't help, it's still off a little.


Not sure if we need to hit 90% to get 14 or what, but from the resources on Radiant, this seems to be impossible...


So, needless to say, 13 is pretty easy to hit with decent resources, so stick with 13

Stewbacca96
Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:03 am
#20




Bockeroo wrote:




Stewbacca96 wrote:




Bockeroo wrote:
i can get 15 with no fill additives


hmmm really? Thats' good to know... guess my water could improve a little bit... can you list what resources you used to hit 15 fill?







Water

DR: 946
OQ: 934

Fruit:

DR: 837
FL: 909
PE: 988
OQ: 953

all amazing experimentations


hmmmm my resources are better and i don't get 15 Fill... just 16... My water is about the same, with a higher OQ, and my fruit is 993 DR and 993 OQ.... Or am I mistaken with the Filling formula on the artisan foods, is it not 75 DR 25 OQ???

MTVGeneration
Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:36 am
#21
Is it worth using the reduced filling additives as I get 16 without with pretty good res. is the extra 3-4 worth it?



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I_Zombi
Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:59 pm
#22
hmm, seems like those tubers would be even better for the tissues than a 1000 oq wood is since the fl and pe stats on the meats are a little lower. well, at least we all have another goal to shoot for... mass producing 13 filling bliel or maybe hitting 12 filling



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Stewbacca96
Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:32 pm
#23

I'll actually be mass producing 13 fill Ruby Bliel very soon, some nice wild meat in shift now hehe...


And yeah I tried with 995oq wood, it was quite a bit lower exp. %....


I_Zombi
Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:05 am
#24
what we really need is sciguy to come dazzle us with his powers of math... betcha he could figure out if 12 filling ruby bliel is possible.



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Stewbacca96
Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:53 am
#25




rodius76 wrote:
I was working on this today. I was able to get the additives to 14 with the resources below. I was still only able to get my Ruby down to 13fill

Carboreductive Catalyst (Fill: 14)

- Wild Meat - OQ:927 PE:966 FL:698 DR:135

- Fruit - OQ:953 PE:988 FL:909 DR:837

- Domesticated Meat - OQ:942 PE:634 FL:969 DR:782


Ruby Bliel(Fill:13)

- Water - OQ:954 DR:939

- Fruit - OQ:934 PE:985 FL:527 DR:985


I'd be really interested to see somebody actually hit 12...




Hmmm looks like you have access to better domesticated meat than I do Do you know what % you hit to get to 14 on the additive?

rodius76
Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:06 pm
#26
I was working on this today. I was able to get the additives to 14 with the resources below. I was still only able to get my Ruby down to 13fill

Carboreductive Catalyst (Fill: 14)

- Wild Meat - OQ:927 PE:966 FL:698 DR:135

- Fruit - OQ:953 PE:988 FL:909 DR:837

- Domesticated Meat - OQ:942 PE:634 FL:969 DR:782


Ruby Bliel(Fill:13)

- Water - OQ:954 DR:939

- Fruit - OQ:934 PE:985 FL:527 DR:985


I'd be really interested to see somebody actually hit 12...




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