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Thread: Filling reducing BE addatives...
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Grozurr
Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:39 am
#1
Has anyone used/played around with these?
If so i'm wondering how well they work/what type of affect you found when using them, as if it's worth it i may spring to try and make these on my server and want to know if anyone would even use them.
If someone happens to know or get to play around with them i'm especially interested in tilla t'ill (the stomach emptying drink, whatever the right spelling is).
thanks for your help!
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JediInitate
Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:57 am
#2
Yes I have used these before Made 25 Filling Thakitillo but Its not as easy to mass produce.
Kryxal
Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:17 pm
#3
Resource requirements, at least for the heavies, is far worse than for INNs ... four times as much meat, half wild, half domesticated. These are mostly meat.
CaraAnam
Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:45 am
#4
i didn't find a good acceptance of food made with these items....yes the fillin is low...but so is the buff.....the items i made with it are still stocked on my vendor to this day
LuCha
Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:38 am
#5
I played around with this a looooong time ago, and quickly realized that it wasn't worth the trouble.
First BEs have a hard time making them.
Second the bonus looks lower, so less well informed people don't buy it
Third the bunus really is a little lower. (2x50fill brandy > 3x33fill brandy)
The big difference is that you can take it again sooner than other more filling foods. That is a very hard lesson to learn and most people don't think too much about that.
So I don't bother making the low filling stuff, mostly because my main BE tells me its too much of a P.I.T.A.
Numen
Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:53 pm
#6
As pointed out above the resources requirements make these almost useless. Wild Meat isn't so bad, but domestic meat is pretty horrible. Only 2 decent places to actually hunt it, Yavin and Corellia.
So then you end up with some low filling food with a low buff selling for 50% more. Some foods are useful in certain cases. Basically on high filling foods that you may not really care what the buff is just as long as you get some buff. Thaktillo is one example. A +40ish buff is still decent for the 25ish filling.
I could possible see something like Vercuptifor a emergency buff. It may not be possible to save 50 filling for it, but 30-35 filling may be a bit more manageable.
I have yet to see a certain case where a filling additive should be used over a nutrition additive if you can only choose one to stock. When price, ease of making, buff, filling are taken into account nutrition still is the better buff iin 90%+ of the cases.
Grozurr
Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:55 pm
#7
Thanks for the response guys!
The meat isn't so much a problem for me, because i am the one on the BE end of things and i'm mostly interested in wheather or not these would even do anything.
Again the filling-reducing drink is the one i'm specifically interested in as i've heard of some legendary stuff made to allow a huge canape buff, but i wasn't sure if the filling had been reduced and just really good stuff used to helppower, or if it was just really good power and filling was experimented down enough.
Ikooga
Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:05 am
#8
I'm not sure, I think filling additives don't go over the cap so to speak
If a food with 100% experimented in filling has lets say 20% filling, then you can't get it below 20% even with a filling additive.
I'm pretty sure thats the way it is, same for duration. If 60 mins is the max duration then a Flavour additive won't raise it over 60 minutes either.
I could be wrong here now, but I think I read that somewhere.
Perhaps thats the reason why Nutrition additives are so powerful? Because it allows you to go over the cap.
If a food with 100% experimented in filling has lets say 20% filling, then you can't get it below 20% even with a filling additive.
I'm pretty sure thats the way it is, same for duration. If 60 mins is the max duration then a Flavour additive won't raise it over 60 minutes either.
I could be wrong here now, but I think I read that somewhere.
Perhaps thats the reason why Nutrition additives are so powerful? Because it allows you to go over the cap.
sciguyCO
Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:09 am
#9
Ikooga wrote:
I'm not sure, I think filling additives don't go over the cap so to speak
I don't think that's true, since I seem to recall seeing some testing about using a heavy filling additive and getting Vercupti to 33 filling. 33 Fill is definitely outside the max filling experimentation for Vercupti, although for the life of me I can't find where I saw it.
I do know that Flavor tissues let you go outside the "duration" range for Parwan. Without tissues you can't get recovery bonus above 75.
Ikooga
Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:09 pm
#10
Hm...
Guess I have to find a few of those additives and run a few tests
Let you know what i find out
Guess I have to find a few of those additives and run a few tests
Let you know what i find out
Iwof
Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:55 am
#11
The different tissues definitely change the min/max values.
For example if you don't put BSN in Brandy I can experiment it up to about 95% in nutrition and the buff is still around 230.
But as soon as you add BSN your starting point is a little over 300 at 25-26% and you can then experiment that up to 95% and you have 425+ brandy.
CasualMaker
Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:28 am
#12
Numen wrote:As pointed out above the resources requirements make these almost useless. Wild Meat isn't so bad, but domestic meat is pretty horrible. Only 2 decent places to actually hunt it, Yavin and Corellia.
Talus is about the same as Corellia for domestic meat, just less crowded.
Ikooga
Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:58 pm
#13
Iwof wrote:The different tissues definitely change the min/max values.For example if you don't put BSN in Brandy I can experiment it up to about 95% in nutrition and the buff is still around 230.But as soon as you add BSN your starting point is a little over 300 at 25-26% and you can then experiment that up to 95% and you have 425+ brandy.
As I said, Nutrtion tissues do that.
But I was under the impression that flavor and filling don't do that.
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