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Thread: Bivoli Question

Ja-van
Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:55 pm
#1

Has anyone ever been able to get good enough resources to make bivoli so you can eat 2 at one time? Right now I am extremely close, just 1 bar over halfway. Everything I used had right close to 900+ flavor (I think everthing was over 900). I was just curious if it was possible. If not then there probably is not anyneed in me wasting high flavor components in bivoli.


Thanks


Javan

Gizmarke
Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:20 pm
#2

as far as i know you cannot alter the "filling" of any food


by experimenting and using better resources you can increase duration, quantity, or quality of the buff, but not decrease the filling.


I may be wrong though


if so, i'd like to see some evidence showing otherwise


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Olanthe
Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:47 pm
#3

From what I remember, it was the unit toughness stat that affects filling-ness of food. Bivoli components don't have unit toughness as a stat, so the only way you could tweak it would be to use high-UT wood or hide as the Organic component in the Protato and then experiment 100 percent for flavor/texture. I don't think this would have a big effect though.



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Ja-van
Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:16 pm
#4

I know you can't experiment on the filling factor, but if you check the details on the Bivoli filling is determined 50% from flavor. From what I remember all items taht do not use metals, flavor is 50% of the filling factor. Ones that use a metal UT is the big determiner.


I just tested this with crappy flavor foods for the carbo and protato along with the meat and vegi that is required for the bivoli. I am quite upset to see that NO change in the filling bar happened. Still ends up showing the same (just over 50%). So should I take it that worrying about finding high UT and Flavor foods is pointless?


I know the bar does not reset properly, but whenever I eat afoodit alwasy updates to the new filling rating. Is this a known issue that filling isnt working properly in respects to resource quality?


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sciguyCO
Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:30 pm
#5






Ja-van wrote:

I know you can't experiment on the filling factor, but if you check the details on the Bivoli filling is determined 50% from flavor. From what I remember all items taht do not use metals, flavor is 50% of the filling factor. Ones that use a metal UT is the big determiner.




The "Filling" stat is incorporated into the "Flavor and Texture" category. I wasable to make a difference in the number of synthsteaks by experimenting on that, somewhere around 28% it went from eating 2 made me full to being able to eat 3.


I've decided that all schematics lie except for Air Cake. Checking that, Filling is based 100% on Unit Toughness. Since none of the resources Bivoli needs has that, I'd suggest using a high UT organic in the protato, experimenting Flavor and Texture as high as you can on both components, then experimenting F&T as high as you can on the Bivoli.






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GuardianHawk
Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:55 am
#6

sorry if this question is a little simple but here it is.


When eating Bivoli if I would eat more then one at a time does it help in effectiveness or add to the duration of the effect?


I do understand there is a max increase of a +25. so if it is an effectivness increase would it be just as good to eat a +13 two times to get the +25.


And duration is about 15 minutes right. Would eating two make it 30 minutes...


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Mrozone
Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:04 am
#7

If you east 2 its still 15 minutes or what ever the time is on it. Im not sure you cant eat 2 at a time.


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KnA
Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:13 am
#8

If you notice when u try to eat the second one it gives you a msg that says your already under the affect of one. So no it does'nt add more time or stack more than 25.5





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Marrow1
Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:35 pm
#9

You simple cant eat more than one. If you have non-be bovili (+10, 33% filling, for example), it still will not let you each a second one.


This is true with any skill enhance food/drink. The only food/drink that stack are ones that increase your HAM.





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MixedNuts
Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:00 am
#10

Hi, everyone. I was told recently that Bivoli rounds up once you hit +x.5 (e.g. 23.5 would round up to 24). Now I've been asked several times recently whether I can make +25 bivoli or not. I tell them I can only make +24.7 with current resources (capped). So they tell me to let them know when I hit +25. Would it be safe to tell them that it rounds up and that +24.7 is the same as +25?Could someone verify please?


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Numen
Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:15 am
#11

It does not round up. Just like everything else in this game, all numbers are rounded down in any final calculation.


+25 Bivoli is better than +24.99


and +24 is no different than +24.99



I will say this is from experiments in Pub 8 though. I find it very odd that they would change a base system drastically with noone noticing it though.



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Okin_Sin
Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:37 am
#12

yep 24.99 = 24.00 so if you can only make 24.7, make a 24.0 and add to uses or duration.
OditeFosore
Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:53 am
#13

This is such a frustrating issue at times. We just had a great carnivore meat spawn on dathomir withall stats around 900, which I thought would surely get +25 with my other resources. Started running a few experiments, 24.8ish with 115's, 24.9ish with 116's, and 24.95 or 6 or something ridiculously close but still no va with 117's. So, back to using this meat that came in by the boatloads for tissues instead of bivoli. Sure wish there were a round up point.



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