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Basicly the days of being a millionare are gone. Being a crafter is going to be very hard for the next few months due to everyone readjusting and we Chefs will begin to have arguments with BEs again. Shame really. The boards seem to have calmed down for some time now too.

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Smeg3 wrote:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=31775#M31775

Does this mean people are not going to be getting as much money.....

So they won't grind onJantas........

so they won't use as much Brandy/Canape/Ahrisa.......

so chef sales are going to be hit *instantly*??

Any ideas?

Smeg

I only ask cos I am about to buy +6 food exp to give me my 12th point for 18million - but i kinda think the money might be better in the bank and drop Chef......

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My guess is that this will hit us hard -- and coming on top of the JTL expansion which has cut my business by at least 70%, I'm guessing it's going to be very tough going for the foreseeable future. I figured sales would normalize after people began to get bored with JTL and came back to the ground game -- but now when they come back they're going to have a hard time getting the money together to pay for food.

I suppose over-all this will help the economy, but I think chefs (and weapon & armorsmiths) will be hit especially hard in the short term.

This is gonna be a big adjustment in the economy but when it happens i can see a chain reaction happening.

Money into the game plummets > the price of loot crashs > the people who have money (crafters mainly) will hold onto there credits knowing how hard it would be to re-accumulate > the number of people who harvest creature resources goes up > the price of those resources comes down > crafters get into a price war trying to get the little custom that there will be > the value of credits goes way up > the price of items goes down > a more balanced economy.

As it stands now credits are worth next to nothing, with this change eventually the prices will re adjust tho everyone one ends up poorer, but the rich will still be richer than the poor relitivly. The defintion of "rich" will change imo, as it stands you have to have multi millions just to be considered well off, let alone be rich.

Thats alot assuming there, but i think it would happen something like that.

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Higginsis wrote:
This is gonna be a big adjustment in the economy but when it happens i can see a chain reaction happening.

Money into the game plummets > the price of loot crashs > the people who have money (crafters mainly) will hold onto there credits knowing how hard it would be to re-accumulate > the number of people who harvest creature resources goes up > the price of those resources comes down > crafters get into a price war trying to get the little custom that there will be > the value of credits goes way up > the price of items goes down > a more balanced economy.

As it stands now credits are worth next to nothing, with this change eventually the prices will re adjust tho everyone one ends up poorer, but the rich will still be richer than the poor relitivly. The defintion of "rich" will change imo, as it stands you have to have multi millions just to be considered well off, let alone be rich.

Thats alot assuming there, but i think it would happen something like that.

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I'm just browsing through the forums and noticed this post. I think I agree with you except for one thing. The price of loot will probably skyrocket in the short term because the combat people who can't make as much money from mission payouts will want to make some extra income. The perception amoung combat folks is that combat characters are all poor and crafters are all filthy rich (which is a myth) and many will want to squeeze a little extra money out of the crafting community. I don't think that it affects chefs at all (there is no loot involved in making food or the suppliments for food), but the the loot based schematics for weaponsmiths, armorsmiths and tailors will most likely become much harder to make for a profit and will most likely either be made with loot from the crafter's combat alt, or special orders where someone brings in the loot and asks for an item to be made.

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Higginsis wrote:
the number of people who harvest creature resources goes up > the price of those resources comes down

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sciguyCO wrote:

Even with reduced mission payouts, I think customers will still be willing to pay 80k/100k for +400 brandy. That's a 50% profit margin above resource market price, or 150-200% margin if you harvest everything yourself; a perfectly acceptable income in my opinion.

I'm assuming that the payout adjustment is being done to reduce the "credit faucets" that really have led to price inflation on almost all the servers. If mission payouts are reduced, I'm really hoping scouts/rangers will find it equally profitable (maybe even more profitable) to hunt meat/hide/bone for crafters, increasing the creature resource supply. That's just a player-to-player credit swap, not involving minting new money, so inflation doesn't factor into those transactions.

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there are definately a lot of ways to "cut costs" but the problem is that the only way to do that is to do everything themselves...this goes completely against the profession interdependency that the devs claim to be so much in favor of...and lends itself towards strengthening monopolies which the devs claim is a problem, and one that they want to fix somehow...yet every change they try to put it to "squash" monopolies only makes them stronger.

this is only going to have 1 effect....that is making it essentially impossible for new players to compete...ever, and for new/small crafters to quit while the large scale power crafters take over.

and then theres JTL...if anyone has seen the prices on the tier 3+ chasis/components vs. the reward payouts for the missions in space, well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that 90% (or more) of the credits spent on JTL items comes from ground game missions.

with the resource requirements on ship chasis vs. the price a lot of people are willing to pay...JTL is one HUGE credit sink...

having credit faucets never has been, or ever will be the cause of the current state of the server economies...the lack of any credit sink (until just recently) that most people find fun, and worthwhile.

have some npc vendors with "expensive" display or wearable items...they don't have to add stat/skill bonuses but those would be credit sinks that could accomplish the same thing...without making a huge portion of the community extremely upset....and with WoW coming out soon...well its generally not a good idea to piss off large portions of an online game community just prior to the release of a rival game.

Once again SciguyCo ya prove the true meaning of a correspondant. Doing all the math and putting it in cold hard facts like that makes me at ease somewhat.