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Thread: Whats the best Ithorian mist and Thakitillo around?
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Aajax
Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:18 am
#1
The best I've seen is +101 for Thakitillo and +23 for Ithorian Mist
Higginsis
Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:01 am
#2
Won't get much better than 101 thak, as quite frankly there's no need for 100, let alone 101.
Ith mist is tricky, i'd say the highest you could get theoretically would be 26, but feasbaly 24 is the best you could hope for.
Ith mist is tricky, i'd say the highest you could get theoretically would be 26, but feasbaly 24 is the best you could hope for.
Bliznit
Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:06 pm
#3
ive got a bunch of krayt hunters who love my current thak
101kd, 38 fill. 11 mins. I wish the wood was not gated and I would make that better.
23 or so ith mist is pretty good, drop the filling to 15 or so and its even better!1!!
CaraAnam
Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:56 pm
#4
Higginsis wrote:
Won't get much better than 101 thak, as quite frankly there's no need for 100, let alone 101.
Ith mist is tricky, i'd say the highest you could get theoretically would be 26, but feasbaly 24 is the best you could hope for.
why do you think 100 Thak is not needed??
Feisen
Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:12 pm
#5
CaraAnam wrote:
Higginsis wrote:
Won't get much better than 101 thak, as quite frankly there's no need for 100, let alone 101.
Ith mist is tricky, i'd say the highest you could get theoretically would be 26, but feasbaly 24 is the best you could hope for.
why do you think 100 Thak is not needed??
I'm going to guess Higginsis meant because there is always a 5% chance that a knockdown will succeed.
I_Zombi
Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:56 am
#6
Doesn't thak also stack with skills? Like if you've got +60 defense v kd from your template or attachs, doesn't +40 thak do the same thing as +100? 1 more thing... doesn't thak have no effect vs. Giant and Ancient krayts? I've heard it doens't matter, they kd the crap outta you with or without it.
Sorry for the hijack.
BarakKuzar
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:41 am
#7
Regarding Thakitillo, I have made a couple of runs of +102 for those people that demand the highest number, but have focused more on 34 fill and longer duration versions both of which lead to lower bonuses (+73 to +96), but overall greater usability in conjunction with other foods.
From memory, I believe that my last Ithorian Mist was +23 which was made usingdecent, but not super, stats on materials and an 86 bsn.
Dular
MeciniaLua
Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:57 am
#8
I can hit +24 with Ithorian Mist pretty regularly, Thak for me is a bit harder need some better resources, right now I hit around +95
sciguyCO
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:06 pm
#9
I_Zombi wrote:
Doesn't thak also stack with skills? Like if you've got +60 defense v kd from your template or attachs, doesn't +40 thak do the same thing as +100? 1 more thing... doesn't thak have no effect vs. Giant and Ancient krayts? I've heard it doens't matter, they kd the crap outta you with or without it.
Sorry for the hijack.
Yes, Thak buffs the same Defense vs. KD skill mod you can also get from skill boxes. So if you have +60 Defense vs. KD, +40 Thak gives you +100 defense vs KD (and +100 Thak would give you +160 defense vs KD).
As for the other stuff, we don't really know how those skill mods work. They might be percentage based. They might be a scaled percentage (+100 mod = 10% resist). There may be "opposed checks" going on, where different KD attacks have a different chance of sticking, and the actual chance of getting knocked down is equal to the Attack% - DefenseVsKD.
The devs don't like to divulge the inner workings of the combat engine, so it's tough to actually determine the benefit of these foods without doing statistical analysis of the results.
Hmmm, I wonder if ChefVomit is looking for a new project. 
Strategiry
Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:12 pm
#10
I must be doing something wrong with my mist. The BEST I can hit is +21, and I am using 999 OQ water, and 969 PE 881 OQ Wheat. In addition, I am using an 88 BSN, I should be getting a higher value, right?
Tellahane
Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:14 pm
#11
From what i've seen in testing with combat stuff any of the defense vs anythings work so if you have say 160 defense vs knockdown, its 80% chance to not get knocked down, basically half the value into a %, Since there is a cap no one can get 100% without food, and even if u get 200 defense vs kd they redesigned the mods so there is always a 5% chance to hit no matter what the accuracy or defenses.
Strategiry
Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:20 am
#12
Tellahane wrote:
From what i've seen in testing with combat stuff any of the defense vs anythings work so if you have say 160 defense vs knockdown, its 80% chance to not get knocked down, basically half the value into a %, Since there is a cap no one can get 100% without food, and even if u get 200 defense vs kd they redesigned the mods so there is always a 5% chance to hit no matter what the accuracy or defenses.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that, 100 seems to be about the minimun value necessary to be "capped" against any given state. While there is still a 5% chance to be stated, I can say from personal experience with my "stacker" that +100 is all you need.
FlereImsaho
Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:30 am
#13
I've heard there is always a 15% chance of a state getting through regardless of how high a mod is. Isn't coreilian beer a better fill v's defence supplement than thak?
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