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Thread: +449 Brandy could I get any better?

Don_T_Shoot
Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:16 pm
#1

I *think* I hit the nutrition max for brandy on my server and I'm pretty excited about it.

Brandy XO +449 / 39 minutes / 21 use / 50 fill (later ended up with 40.5 minute with 18 uses due to using wrong schematic, yes I = doofus).


I used +89 BSN's (made with some uber wood and resource deeds) and some berries and fruits I had already. A calculator I used claimed I could hit +450 but I maxed at 98% nutrition for the +449. The berries were Ivole (DR=308 FL=821 PE=980 OQ=996) and the fruits were Taetona (DR=684 FL=597 PE=979 OQ=988 ).

Any idea if I should have hit +450 with that?

Message Edited by Don_T_Shoot on 04-04-2005 12:56 PM








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kbad_atc
Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:16 pm
#2

very nice mod there Azaki!


I hit +450 also when I calculated it, but I did it kind of fast because its getting late. Very nice. The stuff I sell is +432, 46mins, 49 fill, 21 qty and the highest I can get with Intrepid's resources is only 436, 45 mins 30 secs, 49 fill. I would love to get my grubby paws on that stuff.



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sciguyCO
Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:34 pm
#3

Well, if you used my calculator, then it does say you should be able to hit 450 with those resources.


However, that calculator does make some assumptions that may not be accurate. Mainly, how rounding is dealt with during crafting. If there is any rounding down during the process (98.367% max vs. 98%, 238.53 buff vs. 238 before multiplying by 1.89), you'll get a slightly lower result.


I'm assuming you were able to hit 98% in Nutrition, right? Well, if the 150-240 range is accurate for brandy (and it's held up pretty well), that means that at 98% of the range, you're at 150 + 90*0.98 = 238.2. If the crafting system kept the decimals, you'd get 238.2 * 1.89 (for the additive) = 450.198. If the crafting system does not keep the decimals, you'd get 238 * 1.89 = 449.82. There's also the possibility that decimals are tracked for max percentages (the actual calculated cap is 98.367% putting the buff at +238.53), but the effect of that can't really be determined with your test.


Since you were only able to hit +249, I suspect the buff is rounded down before the additive bonus is applied. I suppose the calculator could account for that, but I'd have to think about how to do it and still keep the decimals for other things like Bivoli. The fractions don't count for the buff, but can give an indication on how much better your resources would need to be to hit that next integer.


In any case, I think a 0.2% margin of error is pretty darned good considering the whole thing was reverse engineered from player tests without access to the crafting code.





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Gozhawk
Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:49 am
#4


Not bad... not bad..

Best i've been able to hit was +447, 42:00, 50%, 18 uses. With an 88 BSN...

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joisey
Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:43 am
#5

sweet power.....I haven't screwed around with power to much but been working on duration, made some 55:30/+345/49 first but wanted to up the power little bit more so settled on 51:30/+371/49.



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Don_T_Shoot
Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:43 am
#6

55 minute duration! Nice. I always went for balance between power and duration but with "the new stomach" and at the urging of guildmates, I decided to go for pure power.

That was the full 98% on nutrition. If I remember correctly, I did 6 at once and got an amazing, then 1 and 2 with greats. Spent a point on duration and quantity (only 11pt chef).

Now to sell and use all this up before the CURB!!

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ChefVomit
Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:13 am
#7

Nice work!

The best I have been able to make is +446/43m/49Fill/21use, and I was not by any means the first Chef to accomplish this on my server. I was lucky to be able to learn from several excellent Chefs. But I do think that this is close to the highest that can be reached on Starsider. There is a Correlian berry (or fruit? hmm...cant remember) with a name that begins with O that might be able to hit +447 or +448, but if I remember correctly the FL and DR were poor on it (which is why I dont use it in brandy).

Either way, you are at or near the very top of the scale....and as such, I tip my hat to you



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Don_T_Shoot
Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:16 am
#8

/humble

Thank you. The resources did most of the work.

I tinkered some more and got it to 40.5 minutes, so I'm ready to run with it when I get home.

I'm not sure if anyone has hit +449 on Ahazi. I assume so, there are some amazing, and far far more prolific, chefs on Ahazi like Aidar(Sativa? can never keep the alts straight) and Muffin. I'll wager one of them has done it.

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SystemJinx
Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:53 am
#9

Congrats Don!


Keep a crate of the stuff on display somewhere in your store.



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Meplorium
Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:34 pm
#10






ChefVomit wrote:
Nice work!

The best I have been able to make is +446/43m/49Fill/21use, and I was not by any means the first Chef to accomplish this on my server. I was lucky to be able to learn from several excellent Chefs. But I do think that this is close to the highest that can be reached on Starsider. There is a Correlian berry (or fruit? hmm...cant remember) with a name that begins with O that might be able to hit +447 or +448, but if I remember correctly the FL and DR were poor on it (which is why I dont use it in brandy).

Either way, you are at or near the very top of the scale....and as such, I tip my hat to you





Yeah I used those berries once with what was good fruit and 89s I made with boxi. It came out to +439 or something. I think the highest buff I can do is my quad buff brandy that allows for a maintained 4 brandy buff at +349. Close to +1400 in the end. The problem is there is only a 7 second overlap to take the brandies and take them at the right time. In practice I think this would work more like +1047 half the time and +1396 the other half. There is also that first 30 minutes were you are only + 698, which is rather weak. So I suppose a price is to be paid for the best possible buff. Nice system really.



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Cibila
Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:45 pm
#11

442/45m/18use/50fill
Was my best ever, and I made this one when we still had the 45m stomach, im pretty sure it could go higher on nutrition, ill have to see how high I can go. I did this one on the Valcyn server.

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Gakassop
Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:30 am
#12


+456 is the highest possible..456 is what you get with 100% experimentation to the nutritional bonus..i hit this on craft day



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BlueStrike147
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:20 am
#13

I have a very hard time getting good nutrients on my server, or any for that matter. How much better would 89's make my brandy if its +430 with 84's?
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