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Thread: Breath of Heaven pricing--need help, yes i read the price guide!

OberonMyx
Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:01 am
#1

Ok, ive read the Faq and the guides, but i still have a question about what a crate of BOH typically ruuns for. I did the math..my BOh's have 12 charges each, so with 500c per charge that is 6000cred per stack, 150k per crate...but does this sound right? that seems a bit much..mybe im not figuring something in that i should. I got an order for 10 crates each of BOH, Fishak, Ryshcate,Sunburn, and Flameout, and i am at a loss for what to charge. Doing the suugested price i came upo with 3,382,000cred, and with the discount i was offering ended up giving it for 2,032,000...but does this seem right ...i need help..is this too much? Too little? I use high qulity resources andd have great stats, but still...2 million cred is more than ive seen in my swg lifetime..any help, id appreciat e it,


Oberon..Master Chef,



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sciguyCO
Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:24 am
#2


Don't forget, you're selling these to combat characters who are getting 5-10k missions that can be done in pairs in 10-15 minutes. 2 million isn't really that much, if you have the skills to handle big critters on the tougher planets. Plus, with such a huge order, this might even be for a PA, so you've probably got multiple people pitching in.


Personally, I think you might've undersold a little. I would've sold that order for....around 2.5 million, maybe 3 depending on how good the products came out. Don't forget, the BoH alone probably represents half a week of factory/harvester time.


There really is a lot of money floating around in the game, don't be afraid to ask for your share.






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OberonMyx
Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:32 am
#3

Thanks... i think you're right...just being a poor person since launch, rarely having over 40k cred at a time, i sometimes forget that there are some really wealthy folks in this game, and the y aren't afraid to spend the loot. This order was for a pa, so maybe i will go ahead and offer it for 2.5 mil... i havent told them my figures yet..i still needed the general doses of flameout, which i havent made..Ive only been a masster chef for 5 days, so the order and the possible wealth gained from it was a little staggering....



Oberon, Master Chef



Twas' brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe. All mimsy were the borogroves and the mome raths outgrabe.

Oberon/Xian', retired, writing poetry.
Vishna
Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:48 am
#4

mine are typicaly 15 charge and i still sell em for 500cr a charge.


usually end up being 180-200k. So yeah id say your about right on.





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PBN
Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:19 am
#5

I won't sign it - because I want neither the flames, nor the additional orders (I'm busy enough, thank you). But...


Charge what you feel is right. Personally, I stick to charging 50 percent above cost, or the equivalent in Doctor's Buffs, whichever is higher.


My last batch of BoH was stacks of 9, +613/553s (If I recall) and sold for about 35,000/crate or thereabouts. *shrugs*



DoveAthodo
Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:57 am
#6

BoH cratesgo for 75K to 90K on my server. I guess it really matters where you are.



Dove
Jihadic
Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:08 pm
#7






PBN wrote:

I won't sign it - because I want neither the flames, nor the additional orders (I'm busy enough, thank you). But...


Charge what you feel is right. Personally, I stick to charging 50 percent above cost, or the equivalent in Doctor's Buffs, whichever is higher.


My last batch of BoH was stacks of 9, +613/553s (If I recall) and sold for about 35,000/crate or thereabouts. *shrugs*










You charge 500K per crate of 25? Doctors enhance packs come out to about 20 per stack and sell for around 1K per use. That comes out to 500K per half crate of enhance packs(25 count). I don't think most chefs realize exactly how bad our profit margin is on quality products .


Charge what you can. I've used both CPU and per use charging methods and I've just sunk into what I feel it is worth. I make Bargain of Heaven(Affordable Breath of Heaven) out of HQ base alcohol and it comes out to +300ish buffs and 23 uses per stack. I still sell it at around 45K. Don't know where I pulled that number from, but that's what I charge.




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Themble
Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:28 pm
#8

Yeah, don't forget that the 1k per buff from a doc includes paying them to stand around the starport all evening. Just my 2 cents.



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DoveAthodo
Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:30 pm
#9







Jihadic wrote:


You charge 500K per crate of 25? Doctors enhance packs come out to about 20 per stack and sell for around 1K per use. That comes out to 500K per half crate of enhance packs(25 count). I don't think most chefs realize exactly how bad our profit margin is on quality products .


Charge what you can. I've used both CPU and per use charging methods and I've just sunk into what I feel it is worth. I make Bargain of Heaven(Affordable Breath of Heaven) out of HQ base alcohol and it comes out to +300ish buffs and 23 uses per stack. I still sell it at around 45K. Don't know where I pulled that number from, but that's what I charge.






I think you got the number this way:


90 resources to make with normal Alcohol x 25 BoH per crate x 20cr per resource


90x25x20=45,000





Dove
PBN
Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:38 pm
#10

you misunderstand. when I say the equivalent of doctor buffs, I mean as follows: the above BoH would offer (9*613*553*25)/(60*60) points of buff for 1 hour. Most doctors charge approx 1k for a 2000 buff for 2 hours (4buff*hours/credit). So, the crate which offers 1839 (3*613)buff for 35 hours would be based at 16k (4 buff*hours/credit), if the cost (+50) is greater (always is), then I charge cost + 50. final charge 35k/crate
PBN
Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:28 pm
#11

I'm glad you decided not to rant :-)



To ease your concerns...



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DashZero
Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:10 pm
#12

Thats what the holochef who sells all chef foods for 30 creds a stack on my server told me too.






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OberonMyx
Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:30 pm
#13

hmm.. i never thought about depressing the money... i guess i'll give him the 2.5mill deal for the 50 total crates..honestly, its more money than ive ever seen..thanks alot for the responses, guys and gals, cooks and bartenders...



Oberon, Master Chef





Twas' brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe. All mimsy were the borogroves and the mome raths outgrabe.

Oberon/Xian', retired, writing poetry.
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