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Thread: What foods are used now to heal mind?

Cry4Dawn
Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:54 pm
#1

I understand that certain food can now heal mind and now use stomach points against you. The food acts like a healing pack... Can someone please tell me what foods these are? Also whats the low and high heals the good and bad on these have and how many charges do you get out of each of these and whats the prices on a crate low and high for these roughly?


What is the time delay on mind to heal usese these foods as well




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sciguyCO
Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:26 pm
#2

There are two, both drinks:


Aitha: heals 110-180 mind damage, filling 18-11, 4-7 doses (with small glasses)

Blue Milk: heals 300-500 mind damage, filling 36-22, 4-7 doses (with small glasses).


Both of those can take a light additive, so you could boost the healing 30-60% (depending on the BE tissue effectiveness), reduce the filling 10-30%, or increase the number of doses 100-200%. Since they're drinks the number of doses can be multiplied using large glasses (1.5x) or casks (3x).


There's no delay imposed between using doses (well, other than the normal "combat queue" delay all eat/drink actions take while you're fighting), but once you're full you have to wait before you can drink another one.


Pricing on the Aitha will probably be pretty low, I have crates of 25 large glasses (6 or 7 doses) non-enhanced for sale at about 15k. Blue Milk will be more expensive, each stack requires 20 units of milk which can be hard to come by for some chefs.





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Foxana
Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:55 am
#3

Does the quality of the milk affect the product? Also, what do you mean by stack? The recepie for blue milk calls for 10milk and 5 meat. Are you saying that if I craft this item twice, I can stack them?
Ceritos
Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:04 am
#4

quality of milk does matter, as well as quality of meat used to make blue bilk.


by stack, he probably means in crate, which is from factory.


Armeno
Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:37 am
#5

"Stack" refers to the single crafted unit that has 6 or whatever amount of uses to it. You can't stack seperately crafted items, only a factory can as was stated above.




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SirVimes
Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:42 am
#6

Yeah...if you want to be technical, what Sciguyco is refering to is one blue milk with 6 charges. We will refer to it as a stack of 6. That is not correct in the technical sense but close enough.
sciguyCO
Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:02 pm
#7






Foxana wrote:

Does the quality of the milk affect the product? Also, what do you mean by stack? The recepie for blue milk calls for 10milk and 5 meat. Are you saying that if I craft this item twice, I can stack them?





The 20 milk statement was a screwup, it was supposed to be 10. One "stack" of Blue Milk (requiring only 10 units of milk) is the single item taking up space in your inventory, which has multiple doses/charges/uses (pick your favorite term).


And the milk quality does effect the final product, the amount healed depends 50% on OQ and 50% on DR.






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Foxana
Sat Mar 13, 2004 1:47 am
#8

Ah, ok. Thank you all very much.
rgrocott
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:19 am
#9







sciguyCO wrote:

And the milk quality does effect the final product, the amount healed depends 50% on OQ and 50% on DR.






I'm pretty new to this game, so please feel free to slap me down, but are you sure about this? I ask, because I just made two glasses of blue milk, using different milk in each (all other ingredients the same). Great successes on both initial combines (although I don't think that matters?).


Milk A (OQ 591 PE 917 FL 331 DR 738)
Initial combine: Fill 17% Nut 21% Qut 22%
Maxed out at 81% for nutrition


Milk B (OQ 612 PE 52 FL 901 DR 430)
Initial combine: Fill 12% Nut 9% Qut 7%
Maxed out at 43% for nutrition


Meat used was OQ 832 PE 825 FL 449 DR 563


By my calculations, that indicates the standard formula of 66% PE and 33% OQ for nutritional value.


Meat: (2PE +OQ)/3 = 827.3
Milk A (2PE + OQ)/3 = 808.3
Milk B (2PE + OQ)/3 = 238.6


Ratio of 2 milk to 1 meat gives a value for nutrition using 66% PE, 33% OQ of


Milk A: 814
Milk B: 434


The 50% OQ, 50% DR formula would give (by my calculations)


Milk A: 675
Milk B: 579


Am I doing something wrong here? I'd hate to think I was doing all that math but working on incorrect principles... Any answers appreciated





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rgrocott
Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:47 pm
#10







sciguyCO wrote:

The milk schematic is where I got the 50%OQ/50%DR numbers




Oh yeah! I've been using that website you set up since I started learning Chef (my first real crafting prof, and I'm very grateful to you), and I genuinely hadn't noticed those stats were listed in the schematic!


Will file a report, and will post any updates on the forum. Think we should make this a new post? The starting topic might kind of discourage people from looking into it, and milk's an expensive commodity to be using with incorrect formulae.





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rgrocott
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:10 pm
#11






rgrocott wrote:




Will file a report, and will post any updates on the forum.




Well, I would if we got updates on bug reports



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sciguyCO
Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:36 am
#12

Your math looks right, I'd say /bug it. The milk schematic is where I got the 50%OQ/50%DR numbers, so either the description is wrong or the equation the game engine is using is wrong.





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AGS512
Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:59 am
#13


What's the price of a blue milk crate of 400 power and 12 uses?



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