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Thread: Why We Suck

SWBarker12
Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:31 pm
#1

I am gonna take some time and compile a list of reasons we suck. Feel free to add.


1. HAM costs ridiculous.


2. Our Krayt weapons are much harder to make then pistols (1 tissue vs 4 tissues)


3. Compared to weapons like the Scatter Pistol, our guns' stats dont compare. The scatter pistol can rather easily be made AP 1, Spd 1.5, Dmg 100-250, AcidDamage, andlow HAM costs (compared to carbines).Extremely good laser carbines will be AP 2, Spd 2.5, Dmg 50-350, Energy Damage, and High HAM costs. There is no balance in that whatsoever.


4. LegShot3=LegShot2 w/ higher HAM.


5. Burstshot2=Burstshot1 w/ higher HAM


6. Chargeshot2, an AOE KD, doesnt KD.


7. HAM costs on all carbineer specials is ridiculous (around 4 to 5 times pistols').


8. We have horrible speedskill mods.


9. We have horrible defense skill mods.


10. Our main defense skill mod is counterattack, no attack is involved.


11. HAM costs.


12. Our Elite Carbine takes a resource that always spawns crappy. A incredibly high end Elite carbine will be on par with a good Laser Carbine against higher end MOBs (AP 2 makes a BIG difference).


13. We do not have the selection of professions pistols have. We only have BH (which requires the mastery of 2 professions). Smuggler is incredibly easy to obtain (only other requirment besides pistol is some Brawler) and has some of the best attacks in the game, Last Ditch (HUGE damage modifier), Panic Shot (incredibly powerful because your target cant attack for 10 seconds), Low Blow (a KD two fold better than any of ours, and KD is supposed to be our specialty), and Feign Death (never die in PvE).


Well that felt better, always good to blow off steam, feel free to add.





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Player Character Jedi=The Downfall of SWG

**Edited by Jeassa on 06-22-04**

RonianTitus
Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:42 am
#2

Actually i beg to differ. Scatter pistol has pretty high ham on our specials. I prefer the pistol line over the carbine but i find myself creeping towards carbine again due to the fact my laser is 450 damage 3.0 speed (krayt enhanced and damage sliced of course). I love carbine but the HAM cost is ridiculous in the BH carbine tree , same problem your professions are having. I can easily outdamage my scatter using my laser carbine. I might use a little more ham but spray shot for a master is around 2500 for me + and my krayt scatter is around 1800 torso on top shot. And your looking at AP1 vs. AP2 also. I dont feel a good scatter can outdamage an equally good laser carbine shot for shot in any fight.


sorry just my .02cents ill see my way to the door


PS: i hope they fix the HAM on all carbine specials in elite professions. This is ridiculous


Ronian Titus


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Indicant
Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:55 am
#3

One error SWBarker- the speed on a laser carb sliced for damage would be 3.5 not 2.5. To get to 350 max it would have to be damage sliced.


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-Extremely good laser carbines will be AP 2, Spd 2.5, Dmg 50-350, Energy Damage, and High HAM costs.


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MusashiwolfStorm
Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:28 am
#4

Because the Devs wouldnt know a carbine if it was lodged up their arse?



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SWBarker12
Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:00 pm
#5






Indicant wrote:

One error SWBarker- the speed on a laser carb sliced for damage would be 3.5 not 2.5. To get to 350 max it would have to be damage sliced.


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-Extremely good laser carbines will be AP 2, Spd 2.5, Dmg 50-350, Energy Damage, and High HAM costs.


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I was talking about a Krayt gun.




Nerf Jedi

Player Character Jedi=The Downfall of SWG

**Edited by Jeassa on 06-22-04**

DandeMoflo
Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:13 am
#6

HAM COSTS HAM COSTS HAM COSTS

All the rest wouldnt be so bad if the HAM cost was lower.

Dande



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Draccuss
Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:07 am
#7

I completely agree Dande. I could handle everything else as it is if the freakin HAM costs weren't so bloody high.



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Indicant
Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:42 am
#8

My bad. I should have guessed from the damage max. I've never bought a laser carb with max damage over 250 unsliced on tarquinas, nor with a speed under 3.6.
ArtexSpasis
Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:54 am
#9

I agree ham costs, ham costs, ham costs,........also fix our broken specials. If we could just have these 2 issues addressed we would be ok. were not asking for the pot of gold here were just asking for the pot if havent read yet TH says in the patch info that there is some " dev lovin" comming real soon we can only hope.



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