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Starski

Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:21 am

Sorry if this is an uber noob question but I cant seem to find a thorough answer anywhere:

Does an AP1,2 or 3weapon still get the AP bonus ifenemy has no armor?

I have heard there was a change to this and some people have mentionedthat thereis no AP bonuswhentarget has no armor (would seem logical enough). Is anyone 100% sure how this works at the moment?

I have tried testing this myself and strangely have found I would do very similardamage to no armor mobs with an AP1 Elite as well as an AP2 laser of comparable stats (bothcarbines had similaraverage damage, laser with a larger spread though.). I have not tired how this would work on mobs with light armor.

Also maybe this is dependant on weather you are in PvP or PvE?

Can anyone set the record strait on this matter?

jontao

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:43 pm

#2

I'm actually looking for an answer for this too.

When attacking mobs with light armour, I do notice that my Laser Carbine (AP2) and my Elite (AP1) do much better than my DH17short (AP0).

But, when attacking mobs with no armour, the difference between the Laser/Elite and the DH17short is much less.

I know thatwhen the AP level of thearmour ishigher thanthe gun, that the gun does 50% less damage. But does the gun get the 25% bonus it is/was supposed to when its AP level is higher than the armour's? Does anyone know for sure?

I'm also curious about my Carbine Speed skill. I'm a 3-3-3-3 Carbineer with Master Marksman. I have a Carbine Speed skill of +50. I've counted again and again, and this appears to be correct (unless I'm missing something). When I go 4-x-x-x- Carbineer I get another +5, and when I get Master I get another +10. This would make the max I could get (without skill tapes, bio-engineered clothes,or learning BH) +65. Reading the forums, I was given the impression that +75 was the max (unmodified) Carbine Speed skill I could get. So, which is it +65 or +75?

Also, the max cut-off for Carbine Speed is +80 right?

Hopefully this makes sense...

ee-Jaasz Teguu, Olympus, Corellia, Gorath

Carbineer (3-3-3-3), Creature Handler (2-3-3-3), Master Marksman

AriasImmortal

Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:59 pm

#3

if they have no armor the AP bonus should still calculate

if they are vulnerable to the damage type (energy in the case of most carbine weapons) then the AP bonus doesn't calculate

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revisoHT

Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:08 am

#4

if the target has no armor and no resists to the damage type being used, there is no ap bonus.

actual damage = (combatspam -[combatspam * resist%]) * 1.25^(APvalue - ARvalue)

If AP - AR < 0, then damage = (combatspam - [combatspam * resist%]) * 2^(APvalue - ARvalue)

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=weaponsmith&message.id=24479&highlight=armor#M24479

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