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Thread: i have a 2.3speed laser carbine, is a speed powerup pointless because of the cap?

poopooplatter
Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:13 pm
#1

down to 1.6 speed with powerup.
DandeMoflo
Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:29 pm
#2

If you search around there are a few topics about how the weapon speed skill works, from what I have seen, the skills seems to be a flat percentage. So if you are a master carbineer with +60 (or +65 with master marks) you have -60% on the weapons speed. As such, any gun with a speed of 2.5 or less will be at a speed of 1. Of coarse this goes a bit higher with -65%.

You will have to do some experiments to see if special delay is effected before or after weapon speed, as then a special like Crippling shot will be faster with the lower speed gun, it all depends on when the cap is enforced during shooting though...

Moflo



Dande Moflo
Master Bounty Hunter
Jedi quote of the week: "plz dont kill me. plz dont kill me"
Zackk
Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:35 pm
#3

At master CH, powering up a 2.4 speed carbine down to 1.7 does an important difference (for me) in PvP or when soloing big targets. When i use cripple shot and some other specials (can't remember which ones). But it's also true that with a 2.4, some moves such as full-auto or leg shots will not fire faster. I personnally own lots of 32% speed-up crates because i do some pvp and lot of soloing, but it damage your weapon faster. So make sure you make enough cash to be ready to replace your carbine in case you can't repair it correctly. So far, i've been able to repair my favorite carbine 6 times with only durability lost but i've a bad feeling the next time it will blow or something hehe. I use 99% efficiency repair kits.



Accrocchio
Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:09 am
#4

It isnt pointless. On the contrary it is very useful when you use specials, because they have an additional delay, that doesn't let you reach the speed cap.


So if you are only using normal shots, yes it would be pointless (assuming you are a master with +60 carbine speed), but you use specials right?

zaztekxeroz
Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:30 am
#5

oersonally, i never use powerups. why? they make your weapons decay like crazy. so unless you dont mind replacing that weapon, i would edge away from using a powerup.



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Ganon Vekker
Master Fencer
Medical Professor
DECarbineer
Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:05 am
#6

I am using the same carbine for 2 month now alsways using power ups. I repaired it 5 times now its at 750 max condition(98% repair kit). And i am master carbineer so i use it 24/7. So weapon decay isnt much of a problem. I can propably use it till Jan. or Feb. . I guess the 15k i got it for have paid of till then.



Ifrin the former mon cal rifleman now most fishy jedi on the server
zaztekxeroz
Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:46 am
#7

waht the hell kinda weapons u usin? my friend is master rifleman, he plays alot. he uses sliced, non poweredup laser rifles and he needs a new one every 2 or 3 days WITH repairing. myself, i use a sliced and poweredup carbine, and from start to finish in killing an EMPTY stromtrooper lair, my gun loses 10 points of condition! now i only use my krayt gun for pvp and i use stocks for pve.



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Ganon Vekker
Master Fencer
Medical Professor
DECarbineer
Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:35 am
#8

I am using a laser carbine. And i played like everyday a least 4-6 hours each day (i love university). When i repair my weapons the usually lose 10-50 points in max condition. I dont use specials to destroy lairs(i dont konw if that makes any difference). Now i started lvling rifelman and i went from 0 to 2002 i a week and still ahve my first laser rifel at 650/650 and only i used overcharge shot all the time when i was still in the marksmantree.


Maybe a WS could clear that up, but i nerfer had to buy a new weaopn because of decay. I replace my DH17 and EE3, but only because the new ones were better.




Ifrin the former mon cal rifleman now most fishy jedi on the server
5poticus
Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:17 am
#9

Finally tried some pvp in a big theed skirmish with my 1.5 speed laser carb (without powerup). Crippling doesnt shoot at speed cap still but while using a damage powerup, as long as i didnt miss, (which didnt seem to much of a prob) I was 2 hit killing everyone. Incapped 10 rebs in under a minute at one point with charge shot 1 followed up by a cripple. Most of the oponents were TKAs in composite armour but were unbuffed where as i had doc buffs and later tat sunburns after my first death. But basically,I have the full assault tree and but not master marksman or master carbineer. And the only special I've noticed that doesnt fire at the cap or close to it is crippling shot. Only downside with very fast lasers is the mind cost, I have max mind stats in all 3 pools as a wookiee and if i were to spam say scatter shot 2 or charge shot 1 at a shot a second im all outa mind in no time. Eventually my fun ended when a combat medics disease wounded my entire mind ham in like a 10-15 second period Was a long 10 minutes watching the only afk entertainer with half the other victims of the CM


I try not to use fast firing carbs for PvE as im stingey and dont like buying new weapons so often




In Game Name: Spoticus
11 pt Weaponsmith / +25 Weapon Experimentation
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