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Thread: Whats better for PVP?

Galacticspaceferett
Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:39 pm
#1

Whats a better gun for PVP? A laser carb with a large damage range (about 85-325 on mine) but Med Armor Piercing, or a carbine like the elite etc with a fairly tight damage range but only Light Armor Piercing? I always figured Med AP wins the battle due to it doing a good 25% more damage against light armored targets etc. Or I might be wrong, anyone give me a little clarification on this? Thanks .



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TAfirehawk
Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:49 pm
#2

Just a few posts down....



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itsragtime
Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:54 pm
#3

armor piercing doesn't work in pvp, so go for high damage output and low speed.

JangusFett
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:20 pm
#4






itsragtime wrote:
armor piercing doesn't work in pvp, so go for high damage output and low speed.





You sure about that? Have someone hit you with a high powered T-21 in a 90% composite helmet and see what results. Its either the armor hole bug or the armor piercing, but the armor piercing seems a lot more practical until the armor hole bug thing is proved.



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Snackalot
Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:07 am
#5

I personally use two carbines. An EE3 against pesky def-stackers, and a laser carbine for everything else. Just a bit of a warning though, laser carbines get chewed up by Ranged Damage Mitigation 3. I have a few guild mates who prefer the elite carbine for this reason, the minimum damage on it is much higher.




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travenwatts
Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:52 am
#6

I believe armor piercing works in PvP only if the target is armored. Attacking an unarmored player, you might as well use a DH17 or EE3. On an armored player, AP should work. But if they are only wearing a helmet you are basically fighting an unarmored player.


As far as laser or Elite goes. After I calculated the actual damage after mitigation, the max dmg was about the same for both my guns. The laser was 10 points lower. Add in 25% damage due to AP2 > AR1 and the laser is a little higher. I still opt for the Elite because i like how I can consistently hit for a certain dmg, and not the randomness due to the Laser's low minimum damage.


TAfirehawk
Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:55 am
#7






travenwatts wrote:

I believe armor piercing works in PvP only if the target is armored. Attacking an unarmored player, you might as well use a DH17 or EE3. On an armored player, AP should work. But if they are only wearing a helmet you are basically fighting an unarmored player.


As far as laser or Elite goes. After I calculated the actual damage after mitigation, the max dmg was about the same for both my guns. The laser was 10 points lower. Add in 25% damage due to AP2 > AR1 and the laser is a little higher. I still opt for the Elite because i like how I can consistently hit for a certain dmg, and not the randomness due to the Laser's low minimum damage.









Don't look at Max Damage, you need to figure DPS. The Min Damage of the Laser cuts its effectiveness WAY down....





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Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

AriasImmortal
Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:06 am
#8

elite by far.



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