Carbineer Archive

Thread: Burst vs. FullAutoSingle

Kubernetes
Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:06 pm
#1

I was curious, which do most people use as their fast, high damage shot? Cripple is obviously huge damage, but that 2.5x delay is too much for me to use all the time.


I used to use Burstshot1 all the time, but I've recently begun using FullAutoSingle2. Damage is less (5.5x vs. 6.0x) and the HAM cost is more, but it's faster (1.7x vs. 2.0x), and it does that fabulous blind/stun that really hurts in PVP. (Stun does work by the way. When I get stunned, it removes my food buffs; not sure about spices though). And if you're doc buffed all the time, the HAM differential is negligible.


Agree, disagree?



Hasdrubal Carthago/ KNR/ Valcyn

Master Doctor/ Novice TKA/ ex-Master Carbineer
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TAfirehawk
Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:13 am
#2

Check this out:


http://www.tafirehawk.com/GoA/Carbineer%20Actual%20Speed%20and%20Damage%20Table.xls







Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Tyrael_the_Archangel
Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:04 am
#3






TAfirehawk wrote:

Check this out:


http://www.tafirehawk.com/GoA/Carbineer%20Actual%20Speed%20and%20Damage%20Table.xls









you like bragging about your file, don't you lol j/k



Tyreal Hikaru
Ahazi
AriasImmortal
Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:06 am
#4

actually, i like cripplingshot the best, but that's just me. fullautosingle2 is only used when i need to apply the blind/dizzy. And considering that at master, +60 speed will get you to the cap on a 4.0 speed gun, if you have a speed sliced carbine and a speed powerup or extra speed mods you can fire it at the cap, far outdamaging the other specials.



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TAfirehawk
Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:08 am
#5

LOL


Well in another thread right now the flaws are being pointed out, which is good. I am adding an IF statement to place the CAP at 1.0 And once you hit the CAP, CripplingShot is the highest DPS because its long delay is not a factor.



Wish I got a commision on downloads of the spreadsheet






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

novamarine
Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:28 am
#6

Yea and his file usesmy speed and damage research without referencing it


I actually set out to create the same exact file but the problem comes when you get to the speed cap. I couldn't figure out the math to program in so I gave up. If you figure out how to adjust for the speed cap, please let me know. I need such an excel file for some discussions than go on in the correspondant forum. I want to be able to generate a file that others can download, drop in damage for weapons on their server and show them the damage those weapons do after adding in +speed.
TAfirehawk
Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:32 am
#7

/deepbow novamarine


/appologize


Sorry I didn't reference you man....



I just updated it to have a 1.0 CAP with an IF statement, just uploaded to website. But I better go back and /givepraise Feel free to take BOTH of our hard work and freely pass it around to correspondents and everybody else.



AND, I am going to do the TKA one today as the spreadsheet modifies VERY easily to other professions. If you have more profession special stats please point me in the right direction or PM me for my email address.






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

novamarine
Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:32 pm
#8

hehe no worries.


Your spreadsheet isn't exactly what I need...but I can't wait to see the if statement. If it works, that is exactly what I need!


TAfirehawk
Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:35 pm
#9

Its ready for download, go check it out along with the TKA one:


http://tafirehawk.com/GoA/Teras%20Kasi%20Artist%20Actual%20Speed%20and%20Damage%20Table.xls



If you need something else corrected, changed, or modified please let me know


The only hard part here is getting the in-game info, which you did...../tip 100000 novamarine






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

BlasterForHire
Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:19 pm
#10






AriasImmortal wrote:
And considering that at master, +60 speed will get you to the cap on a 4.0 speed gun, if you have a speed sliced carbine and a speed powerup or extra speed mods you can fire it at the cap, far outdamaging the other specials.





+60 speed on a 4.0 gun is not at the cap. that's 1.6 sec shots (for base attacks, NOT specials).


with a speed sliced laser carb (say base speed 3.6) and 33% speed powerup (speed now 3.6 x .67 = 2.4) at master (+60 speed = 2.4 x 0.4 = 0.96) you are shooting BASE attacks at the cap. The special time modifiers still apply, though, which makes FAS2 a better dps shot in my opinion, even at master.


Now, get some BH Carb skills or SEA's to boost your speed higher than +60, and i'll agree with you...
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