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Only time it matters is when your character with a specific weapon and specific special attack are already hitting the 1.0 Speed Cap. In that case a speed slice is a complete waste and has no effect, otherwise they are basically equal. 35% slice to speed is basically the same DPS as a 35% to damage.

BTW, only use Nym's Carbine in the Marksman tree before the DXR6 Cert and as a trophy on the wall.

Pardon a rifleman for stepping in here but thats not exactly true...

Lets say your speed mod is +50 for argument sake.

Since I am in fact a rifleman, and currently don't have any carbines on me, I'll use one of my guns as an example, though the same would hold true for any other gun as well

T21 unsliced 169-399 @ 7.5

T21 with 35% speed slice:

new speed = old speed*(1 - .35) = 7.5 * 0.65 = 4.9 (rounded up)

So new stats are 169-399 @ 4.9

T21 with 35% damage slice:

new damage = old damage * (1 + .35) = 169-399 * 1.35 = 228-538 (rounded down)

So new stats are 288-538 @ 7.5

Message Edited by Eaca on 03-02-2004 01:32 PM

You are absolutely right, I had forgotten that I actually calculated it once too. Logic says 35% is 35% no matter where it is, but that is not the case.

A 35% speed slice is an actual 53.9% DPS increase and a 35% damage slice is an actual 35% DPS increase above the unsliced weapon. The difference between the slicesis 14% more DPS in speed than damage slices (before hitting the cap) but it is actually an 18.9% improvement when looking at the base weapon as the reference point.

Thanks for the clarification, /bonk self I know better as I always use speed powerups until I hit the cap.

BTW, my Carbine Speed is +85 without any BH so a pure Carbineer can hit the speed cap as well

Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 03-02-2004 02:39 PM

But the real point I wanted to make, unless you are in Marksman Carbines, don't bother with the Nym's Carbine, get a DXR6.

Don't beat yourself up too bad. I used to think the same thing until I did the numbers myself too. You would THINK that they would be at least equal if not damage being better as speed slices can go to a higher %, but its just not the case...

If you're not shooting at the cap, you're shooting too slow

Get yourself a Krayted DXR6 rifle with a form fitted stock.

Hope for a damage slice, and you'll be killing mobs left and right

I truly wish i could find a krayted DXR6 but after a week of a better gun than my 33% dam Nym, I haven't found one available on starsider.

I have posted on the forums and gone to every master WS that people recommend and the stats are always something like 110ish-175ish at 3.8 or so with truely prohibitive HAM numbers. I have sliced 18 this week and the DPS is close, but not as good.
Every DXR6 has the same light AP acid attack and less DPS than the Nym's. Not sure why people are advising to hang the Nym on the wall if you are at least Novice, for me, the math says to stick with it untill I can find a stocked/krayted one.

Teppo 'Skar MCH/Marauder/MA

From my experience and everything I have heard to this point, the DXR6 is better than Nym's but each server is probably different.

Although I am a little biased since I have some of the best weapons on my server, for Carbineers that is.

It is the reward for doing the Nym missions on Lok.