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Thread: Carbines Pwn Lemmings

OnlyMaestro
Wed May 26, 2004 11:31 am
#1

I miss you guys.


And carbines.



Smuggler is fun, should hold me over till revamp so I can see what all everything else is like....


...btw, Pistoleers who say their profession is broken are stupid. Last Ditch and Fan Shot are amazing, and hit speed cap way easy. If you only have a few working specials, and those specials consist of Fanshot, Stopping Shot, and Health Shot...you're pretty set.


I know Last Ditch is Smuggler, but Pistoleer is much easier to augment than Carbineer.



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novamarine
Wed May 26, 2004 11:51 am
#2


Oh man. You are going to cause a flame war. However, you are right. My close friend has a master pistoleer character that I borrow all the time to collect meats for my main character. Even with the many specials not working properly, the ones that do work do so very well.In addition, the working defenses such as dodge and melee defense make a world of difference in the amount of damage a pistoleer takes compared to a carbineer.


That being said, I really believe that pistoleers and carbineers are pretty even. Each profession certainly has advantages over the other but it is not accurate to say one is better or worse than the other.In reality, theyboth have the same problems (high-end PvE and PvP) and most players just say their class is worst because of the "grass is greener on the other side perspectives".
OnlyMaestro
Wed May 26, 2004 2:37 pm
#3

Flame War?



I say bring it. I've played both professions at Master....Pistoleers and Carbineers are pretty even, who knows after revamp tho...





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Doq_Utek
Wed May 26, 2004 8:12 pm
#4


Go troll the pistoleer boards traitor!!


j/k





Doq Utek Master Carbineer
Datchery
Wed May 26, 2004 9:23 pm
#5

Pistoleer 'is' borked, fan shot is one of 'two' specials that work right....TWO! 1 Good special should not a profession make neh? (Give us defenses the likes of which every othe profession except Carb has! Defenses to tower the freaking heights damnit!)


Hav0c
Thu May 27, 2004 2:14 am
#6

Can someone explain the word defenses to us poor carbies please?



Watph Brilo
Master Bounty Hunter

'I am Jack's broken heart'
novamarine
Thu May 27, 2004 5:21 am
#7






Datchery wrote:

Pistoleer 'is' borked, fan shot is one of 'two' specials that work right....TWO! 1 Good special should not a profession make neh? (Give us defenses the likes of which every othe profession except Carb has! Defenses to tower the freaking heights damnit!)







This is exactly the image problem that pistoleers face. They have collectively decided that any special that is not the best, is "borked." They want specials that are useful 100% of the time. No class, carbineer included will ever be that way. Further, pistoleers have put wierd conditions on their"borked" specials. An example is healthshot3 which they have declared "borked" because it only is the best when using a fast pistol (much in the same way certain carbineer specials are only useful when using a speed-sliced carbine). Basically, they want to use slow or damage-sliced pistols AND use slow/high damage specials AND have them be the best. When this condition does not exist, they have declared thespecial"borked".


If I applied the same level of scrutiny that pistoleers do to the carbineer specials, we would only have 1 working special (fullautosingle2) and the rest would be "borked". This is also why when a carbineer picks up or plays pistoleer they do not see any problems. Carbineers are used to situationally effective specials and thus find pistoleer to be working better than even pistoleers think the class is.


Now, don't get me wrong. Pistoleer does have several truely broken specials. The problem is their strict definition of working specials (if it ain't best, it is borked - but remember, only 1 can be best).

Hav0c
Thu May 27, 2004 5:35 am
#8

5 star reply nova hehe





Watph Brilo
Master Bounty Hunter

'I am Jack's broken heart'
OnlyMaestro
Thu May 27, 2004 6:41 pm
#9

I still say when you can augment a profession with...



Bounty Hunter, Smuggler, and/or Commando...your profession can never be broken.



Fanshot with a Launcher Pistol = ...sexy.



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