Carbineer Archive

Thread: /chargeshot1 question?

Erryk
Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:05 am
#1

Just picked up carbineer the other day to have a little fun w/ swordsman before the defense stack nerf in a few months.


threw in my combat xp and got all the way to lvl III in the combat xp branch.


been working with /chargeshot and I think it's pretty cool. question though:


why does it say "your attack failed to knock down your target" and then it shows the target fall down?


on a side note: what's with the insane animation lol -- I used /chargeshot point blank on a mynock and it made me run circles around him for a couple seconds



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Zarqon
Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:44 am
#2

When it says your attack failed to knockdown your target, then you really don't do a knockdown either. The target gets up instantly buta real knockdown lasts 5 seconds. It might contain some posture change to prone also.


As for the animation, chargeshot means that you charge your opponent while shooting. The knockdown is just an effect of your target topping over in an acute attack of laughter




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roymitchel1
Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:05 pm
#3

actually im pretty sure that the target is kd'd every time by charge shot, but they instantly get up. you can kill pretty much anything in the game in chargeshot, and keep anyone down for as long as you want in pvp.



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DarkOsto
Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:36 am
#4

No chargeshot is bugged and never fails. It also has no timer it says it fails everytime but doesnt.
HighGround
Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:30 am
#5

chargeshot1 bypasses the 15 second timer. You can spam it over and over and if it hits it WILL knock down its target regardless of the onscreen message.


In pvp, the only hope u have against a charge shot spammer is them missing, otherwise you will not be able to move. You fall down/stand upfall down/stand upover and over. Its a seriously broken special and needs fixed.


JonnyRico21
Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:51 am
#6

Accutally with Charge Shot all you have to do is wait....when someone charge shots you and you get up and he charge shots you again (charge shot spam) just stay on the ground let him charge shot once he does get up and hes done for works every time for me
Kaffis
Sun Feb 01, 2004 6:48 pm
#7



roymitchel1 wrote:
actually im pretty sure that the target is kd'd every time by charge shot, but they instantly get up. you can kill pretty much anything in the game in chargeshot, and keep anyone down for as long as you want in pvp.





You'd think that people who actually use the shot would have a clue. Knockdown in this game is more than just falling on your back. It's falling on your back with sufficient force that you are immobilized and unable to perform actions for a period of time (several seconds).

Charge shot does this sporadically. When "you fail to knock down your target", they fall to the ground, but are not in the *knocked down state*. This means that if they are ranged, they can continue to return fire unhindered, and may stand again at any point.

And for the record, you will "fail to knock down your target" every time except for once every 30 seconds, just like folks with a timer. Only, when we fail, they go prone because the animations play.
novamarine
Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:02 pm
#8

I wish that people that got beat once by a Carbineer would stop coming here and spreading false info.


As has been mentioned by the people that use the skill, there is just an animation effect with the skill. Nothing more. Targets hit with the animation only can do everything but move including firing and healing. Further, the KD timer is 30 seconds contrary to what misinformed people are spreading around.


It is an animation bug, not a timerless KD as clueless individuals are claiming. The Developers are aware of this issue and may address it during the combat pass. Then again, they might not. Keep in mind that chargeshot is a rather interesting special. It cannot be fired from prone or kneeling and moves you 5 M towards to target everytime it is used. These constitute severe restrictions to the use of the special that no other special in this game has applied to them.


Further, I am starting to recognize the same names coming here and complaining about this special. The Developers are aware of the chargeshot issues and the complaining serves no purpose other than trolling which I would like to point out is forbidden on these forums. Continue trolling and I will ask the moderators to take appropriate action.
glawton
Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:58 am
#9

Kaffis has explained this exactly right. It's the animation that's broken, not the shot. All you have to do is keep firing through it.


However, those who are screaming nerf, as usual, don't understand this. Check out some posts, they all say the same thing.





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TAfirehawk
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:49 am
#10

/cheer novamarine


/ban trolls







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StarDryfter
Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:43 pm
#11

Novamarine, A.K.A., Trollminator!


Kick em.


I am all for a discussion on the logistics of the game, but the bottom line is ppl whould PLAY the profession first THEN gripe....Case in point. I was facing a guy who was spamming eyeshot, I swear to you I was hit in the head 4 times in less than two seconds. I made a comment about so much for the speedcap working....then it was pointed out that another BH was spamming me too! I look through my combat log and sure enough.. Had egg on my face!


Point being, if your uneductaed, keep your mouth shut, it is the only dang way you will go unnoticed for the stupid jerk you can be... Even when that stupid jerk may be me! LOL


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