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Jagdwulf

Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:59 pm

Greets.

Hoping maybe the Master Carbineers here can help me out.

Right now....I'm MBH/Master Pistoleer/Carbineer 0400/a bit of medic thrown in

However, I fight primarily with a carbine (Oddly enough) even though I'm Master Pistoleer. The accuracy numbers with this template are absolutely outstanding even using the carbine instead of the pistol...as most of the bonuses come from general ranged accuracy instead of being weapon specific.Also I get the carbine range. I suffer by some points on defense when I'm holding a carbine...roughly by about the same amount I 'gain' in accuracy I 'lose' in defense.

Specials-wise, The pistoleer complements my MBH skillsvery well and I don't get TOO many redundant moves. It allows me to cycle Advanced Critical Shot and Improved Leg shot for damage, MBH Spray Shot for cone attack, MBH Underhand shot for knockdown, Pistoleer Disarming shot for a quick 5 second mez when I need a heal, Pistoleer intimidate shot to drop their damage by 20% for 15 seconds or so, Pistoleer Warning Shot to decrease their defenses by 80 or so points for 15 seconds or so. The quickdraw and other 'damage' shots are redundant...unless I want to burn my action bar.

I've grown to really enjoy playing this template. As it gives me lots of specials I like, great accuracy, decent defense, etc.

On the other hand....I've recently come into a suit ofvery niceRIS armor (Battle Armor) and I don't have enough mitigation to wear it. The stats are great...and it looks very 'nifty'.

So I've started examining the prospect of swapping the pistols master with carbineer...and moving from MBH/MP/C0400 to MBH/MC/P0004.

I'll lose 5 seconds on the root...which will hurt a bit. Number-wise...I'll trade my nice accuracy numbers for nice defense numbers and decent accuracy number.

My concern comes with the Carbineer special attacks....this is where I need your advice.

At first glance, it seems like alot of the carbineer specials are going to be redundant with my MBH specials. Carbineer has alot of cone attacks but I already have Spray Shot from MBH. Carbineer has Charge Shot but I already have a less-damaging KD with Underhand shot. Carbineer has Rapid Fire, Scatter Shot (Kinda broken), and Legshot for damage. I already have Improved Legshot...and Rapid Fire and Scatter shot seem redundant anyway....as I cycle MBH Advanced Critical Shot with the Improved Leg Shot I already have. Carbineer has a nice snare...Improved Crippling Shot...which I already have. Carbineer has a cone snare (Suprression Fire) which doesn't seem all that useful as its low damage and needs to be spammed. Lastly...it looks like Master Carbineers got 'shafted' in the CU as they should have given you a decent Master level, Master-only special.

I haven't ever played a Master Carbineer, but I've been a Master Pistoleer for some time. So I was really hoping you guys could tell me if I'm missing anything...or if my analysis is correct.

I see an awful lot of MBH/MC running around...so maybe I'm missing something and I'm way off base.

Thanks guys!

Jagdwulf

Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:50 am

#2

/bump for help

TireeG2

Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:47 am

#3

Actually I think you're right on the money with your analysis. The real draw for me is that carbineer covers a large range of useful specials, and the weapons make for good damage and range.

I'm not sure if I can tell you to go master carbineer in this case, it is a tough decision. The trade off I see is that if you go master carbines you'll be getting a boost to accuracy, speed, and defence, since that's the weapon you use most. And the RIS of course which is nice. I'm not sure if the stats are good enough to lose those pistol specials though. Right now I'm Mpistol/MCarbine so I know they're good. Ack yeah, that's a tough call.

If it was me though, I think I would go master carbine. Grab your favorite tree from pistol, I think you have the right idea with the 0004 line.

I may be biased but I think you could do ok without those extra pistol specials. It might be worth a try anyways if you have some free time to grind, I'd be interested to hear what you thought of it, if you did try it.

So yeah, I guess my advice would be that you should at least give it a trial run.

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Jagdwulf

Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:12 am

#4

TireeG2 wrote:

Actually I think you're right on the money with your analysis. The real draw for me is that carbineer covers a large range of useful specials, and the weapons make for good damage and range.

I'm not sure if I can tell you to go master carbineer in this case, it is a tough decision. The trade off I see is that if you go master carbines you'll be getting a boost to accuracy, speed, and defence, since that's the weapon you use most. And the RIS of course which is nice. I'm not sure if the stats are good enough to lose those pistol specials though. Right now I'm Mpistol/MCarbine so I know they're good. Ack yeah, that's a tough call.

If it was me though, I think I would go master carbine. Grab your favorite tree from pistol, I think you have the right idea with the 0004 line.

I may be biased but I think you could do ok without those extra pistol specials. It might be worth a try anyways if you have some free time to grind, I'd be interested to hear what you thought of it, if you did try it.

So yeah, I guess my advice would be that you should at least give it a trial run.

Wow...thanks for the good answer and the kind advice. I actually read your post several times. I think I'll take you up on your advice....flip-flop my template from MBH/MP/C0400 to MBH/MC/P0004. From most of the posts I've received in other forums (I posted this as well in the BH forum)....it seems that I've hit on a real 'split' decision. Its 6 one way and a half-dozen the other...so I think the only way I really know is to try.

Unfortunately I'm the WORST grinder to walk the face of the planet. /chuckle

Thanks!

Cardco2

Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:50 am

#5

The Carbineer moves have a higher damage then BH and the Carbineer KD is better then BHs.

Thats about it.

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