Carbineer Archive

Carbineers only get 25 bloody ranged deffence, so they were sitting ducks basically! Why oh why does carbineer get the worst deffence out of any class and pretty much the most unconsistent offence too? This makes no sense. Was there ever any intentions of getting carbineer more deffence?

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Xytroncore wrote:
oh I'm sorry, BH gets less deffence, but has like 5x the offencive power...

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Not anymore. Our KD's have been nerfed pretty hard in PvP - plenty of my brethren are uch happier with charge shot. As for PvE, I can't complain. A buffed and armored MBH/carbineer is pretty deadly against mobs - if the denfense stacks get nerfed I'd say the MBH/carbineer could possibly be the best PvE profession.

Still, it sucks about the ranged defense. What about +counterattack though? I'm dropping medic after the HAM changes go live, and can't figure out if I want more speed, accuracy, or the +counterattack mods.

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Xytroncore wrote:
oh I'm sorry, BH gets less deffence, but has like 5x the offencive power...

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how do BHs get more offence? lets take a look at the BH sepcials

underhand shot mild damage insane ham (higher than cripple) and from my experiance about a 1 in 5 chance to KD a NPC so very slim chance against a player

Fire KD (Less damage than full autosingle2) with a 20%chance to dizzy and a 1 in 3 or so chance to KD in PVE and 1in 5 or so PVP so not a bad shot but only for the dizzy

Confusion shot very nice shot but still with less damage than fullautosingle 1 but does give a good dizzy about 50% of the time

now the master shot Spray is a very nice carbine special which my BH toon uses all the time but still only has the same damage mod as FullAutoSingle1. does have some very nice effects though so i cant complain about this shot but keep in mind that you do have to spend 217sp to get it.

BH carbine has some very nice effects shots but to be effetive you have to combine them with Carbineer KD and marksman posture down from the carbineer line along with carbineer damage shots to be effective

now the master special

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ThugForce wrote:
Well, you still have to look at the other trees for BH. They have Torso and Eye Shot. These are possibly the best Pistol Moves in the Game. Also, they have the LLC which can incap a person in one shot. So, you can't assume a BH is not very offensive from 1 tree. I do agree, though, that BHs should get more Defense....but that is another thread.

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Exactly, I wasn't truely comparing the BH carbine tree to carbineer, you do have other options that just dwarf anythinga carbineer can do easily.

Well, you still have to look at the other trees for BH. They have Torso and Eye Shot. These are possibly the best Pistol Moves in the Game. Also, they have the LLC which can incap a person in one shot. So, you can't assume a BH is not very offensive from 1 tree. I do agree, though, that BHs should get more Defense....but that is another thread.