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Thread: We all need to see this

nimmaster
Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:26 pm
#1

i dont know how many of you have been looking through the forums but i found this. i think this is very very very bad. but ill let you all make up you're own minds


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Announcements&message.id=547


plz Devs it needs more testing. i've always thought the CU is a good idea but plz you need to fix it before it goes lives, which you are not doing. plz dont do this its such a bad idea.



Thank you and goodnight








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weaponmaster88
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:27 pm
#2

LOL LOL.. this is the part where the devs tell us this whole thing was a joke right???... the CU isn't even close to being ready to hit TS... it should still be in closed beta... mayb just hitting TS now and they want to push it to live?? please tell me your joking? lets see heres some of the major reasons it shouldn't go live:


you can't craft ranged weapons.... they all come out stun/blast damage...


our specials don't work and our role in combat was completly removed with these changes....


special effects are way over done, and some don't go away....


those are just the 3 problems i noticed when i logged in for like 20 minutes to test.....


anyone else think its ready for live?



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JohnnyDepp
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:34 pm
#3

Yea, I can't believe CU is coming out tomorrow. Hopefully the version they put out on live is fixed of most of the bugs that still exist on TC...
TAfirehawk
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:41 pm
#4




nimmaster wrote:

i dont know how many of you have been looking through the forums but i found this. i think this is very very very bad. but ill let you all make up you're own minds




plz Devs it needs more testing. i've always thought the CU is a good idea but plz you need to fix it before it goes lives, which you are not doing. plz dont do this its such a bad idea.







Added CLICKY.....and I just found out about this like the rest of you....


From the Top 10 list I submitted to the Devs just this weekend you can see my opinion on the 'readiness' of the CU.....I can't really share my feelings otherwise a Mod surely 'get me'. I mean did anybody get to test the E11 conversion to E11 Mk.2 even? Dear lord there are 1001 other issues to resolve before this is playable.....




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nimmaster
Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:39 pm
#5

guys i really hate to tell you but im not joking. i know it isnt even close to being ready, they really need to test it a ton more. like TA said there 1001 things that still need testing. but in the clicky(thank you TA i will learn soon) it says it all.



Thank you and goodnight








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TAfirehawk
Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:19 pm
#6






nimmaster wrote:

guys i really hate to tell you but im not joking. i know it isnt even close to being ready, they really need to test it a ton more. like TA said there 1001 things that still need testing. but in the clicky(thank you TA i will learn soon) it says it all.







And I am absolutely NOT joking here either....I find nothing humorous or even fun about the current State of the CU.


Maybe after 1-2 months the CU will finally become what was promised, but nothing on TC-EP3 makes me want to see this LIVE right now.




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nimmaster
Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:30 pm
#7

Didn't they say somewhere a while ago that they were going to fully test the CU because, they pushed the first system through testing to fast and it ended up with a lot of Bugs? Well the same thing is going to happen with the CU, JTL maybe was ok but that still should have been tested for longer.They are holding back RotW why not keep the CU too. I mean that makes since to me. Now i have never bashed the Devs even when they did some pretty dumb things. But this, this is bad and i really wish there was a way just to go walk up to them and say "you can't really think this is going to work, can you?". Hopefuly if we stick through the CU and all of it's bugs it will get better.



Thank you and goodnight








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TAfirehawk
Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:52 pm
#8






nimmaster wrote:

Didn't they say somewhere a while ago that they were going to fully test the CU because, they pushed the first system through testing to fast and it ended up with a lot of Bugs? Well the same thing is going to happen with the CU, JTL maybe was ok but that still should have been tested for longer.They are holding back RotW why not keep the CU too. I mean that makes since to me. Now i have never bashed the Devs even when they did some pretty dumb things. But this, this is bad and i really wish there was a way just to go walk up to them and say "you can't really think this is going to work, can you?". Hopefuly if we stick through the CU and all of it's bugs it will get better.






The issue (my guess, nothing from facts here) is the schedule is set at a much higher level in the SOE/LA organizations than we ever have contact with in these forums.....



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FaceInTheCrowd
Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:39 pm
#9






TAfirehawk wrote:

From the Top 10 list I submitted to the Devs just this weekend you can see my opinion on the 'readiness' of the CU.....I can't really share my feelings otherwise a Mod surely 'get me'. I mean did anybody get to test the E11 conversion to E11 Mk.2 even? Dear lord there are 1001 other issues to resolve before this is playable.....






The E11 does convert to the Mark II now. I had an old one sitting in a backpack in my house on TC-Prime. It was a regular E11, sliced, and powered up. Stats on the Mark II were similar to other lvl 54 cert weapons that I had on my toons (all standard, sliced, and powered up).


(edit: My Mk II had not been sliced or powered up and had a dps of 254, compared to a slicedelite carbine I had sitting around that converted to 221 dps)


Message Edited by FaceInTheCrowd on 04-25-2005 08:46 PM




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MeciniaLua
Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:59 pm
#10






TAfirehawk wrote:





nimmaster wrote:

Didn't they say somewhere a while ago that they were going to fully test the CU because, they pushed the first system through testing to fast and it ended up with a lot of Bugs? Well the same thing is going to happen with the CU, JTL maybe was ok but that still should have been tested for longer.They are holding back RotW why not keep the CU too. I mean that makes since to me. Now i have never bashed the Devs even when they did some pretty dumb things. But this, this is bad and i really wish there was a way just to go walk up to them and say "you can't really think this is going to work, can you?". Hopefuly if we stick through the CU and all of it's bugs it will get better.






The issue (my guess, nothing from facts here) is the schedule is set at a much higher level in the SOE/LA organizations than we ever have contact with in these forums.....



And thus they will make the same mistake. Folks aren't going to wait for 2 years to see this fixed. This is really the games last hope we all know that. Pushing it out without it being ready has a good chance of killing the game. Pushing it out live as they are now shows that a vast majority of the bugs are going to go live. They will then spend 2 years trying to patch it until they realise they are to the point they feel they need a full revamp again, and thus the cycle will continue. ( Personally a lot could have been fixed by taking the simplest route, lowering armor resist and decresing the power of doc buffs, that alone would have been a much more balanced game than we have on TC-EP3 right now. ) They're shooting themselves in the foot, within 2 months if they don't have this fixed they'll lose any momentum they might have gained by the release of Revenge of the Sith.




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MeciniaLua
Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:01 pm
#11




stupid double post.....

Message Edited by MeciniaLua on 04-26-2005 12:02 AM



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TAfirehawk
Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:03 pm
#12






FaceInTheCrowd wrote:






TAfirehawk wrote:

From the Top 10 list I submitted to the Devs just this weekend you can see my opinion on the 'readiness' of the CU.....I can't really share my feelings otherwise a Mod surely 'get me'. I mean did anybody get to test the E11 conversion to E11 Mk.2 even? Dear lord there are 1001 other issues to resolve before this is playable.....






The E11 does convert to the Mark II now. I had an old one sitting in a backpack in my house on TC-Prime. It was a regular E11, sliced, and powered up. Stats on the Mark II were similar to other lvl 54 cert weapons that I had on my toons (all standard, sliced, and powered up).


(edit: My Mk II had not been sliced or powered up and had a dps of 254, compared to a slicedelite carbine I had sitting around that converted to 221 dps)



Message Edited by FaceInTheCrowd on 04-25-2005 08:46 PM





Strange, Avi on the Dev Tracker said the E11 conversion was bugged.....maybe they got it fixed quick



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FaceInTheCrowd
Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:21 pm
#13

Look at his note for TC only conversion for today. It's fixed and has higher damage than elite.




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