Carbineer Archive

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gj at shutting that post

OMG a carbineer he KD me... o wait... he killed himself it's ok... lol... NERF TKA NOW... this message brought to you via your friends over at the BH forums...

Stupid children. I hate when people make uniformed posts like that. It happens with us all the time and we just get infuriated. I'm sure you guys see it occationaly, but hell I thought everyone knew how bad off the carbineers are LOL.

Here's to a HaM fix so I can use my carbine again

Peace!

heh-

how do you think I feel?

Ima Twi'lek Carbineer... talk about a glutton for punishment...

My friend is going master TK he's almost there, his holocron told him master carbineer, he will be almost unstoppable with buffs at that level.

Read the thread. Nobody is complaining about Carbineers. Just pointing out the fact that your class isn't as hapless as everyone thinks it is. A well played Carbineer can solo anything in this game. It can solo things no other class can. That's not a complaint. It's not a cry for a nerf. It's a fact.

I hope the developers fix your broken specials and HAM costs, etc. No one should have toplay a class that has broken aspect to it. But this idea that Carbineer = Pikeman needs to stop.

The only reason I can see you getting so upset is that you don't want it known that your KD isn't on a timer. Airing that fact isn't a cry for a nerf. You seem to take it that way. You need to relax. It's a statement of fact. There was no complaining about it. It's the way the game is set up currently.

I wish your class the best. Maybe I'll try it out after I finish playing around with Rifleman.

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mega3113 wrote:

Read the thread. Nobody is complaining about Carbineers. Just pointing out the fact that your class isn't as hapless as everyone thinks it is. A well played Carbineer can solo anything in this game. It can solo things no other class can. That's not a complaint. It's not a cry for a nerf. It's a fact.

I hope the developers fix your broken specials and HAM costs, etc. No one should have toplay a class that has broken aspect to it. But this idea that Carbineer = Pikeman needs to stop.

The only reason I can see you getting so upset is that you don't want it known that your KD isn't on a timer. Airing that fact isn't a cry for a nerf. You seem to take it that way. You need to relax. It's a statement of fact. There was no complaining about it. It's the way the game is set up currently.

I wish your class the best. Maybe I'll try it out after I finish playing around with Rifleman.

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Oh I can't believe I received the meaning of your post so wrong; how silly of me.

I that case...

I would like to point out the fact that TKMs aren't as hapless as everyone thinks they are

I mean the ablity to self buff is pretty good, and their sick melee defence isn't to shabby, knockdown moves, and lots of other goodies I'm sure.

Gosh I've even heard stories of them soloing the new Krayts!

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And they can even type messages on these forums too!

I'm done

Merry Xmas everyone

Nice Sarcasm.

Who ever said TKM was hapless? It's one of the few classes that is currently working and that is actually well balanced.

The thread you are talking about is regarding a character who had TKM in his template but did one of those sick Def/melee Defense combos. TKM has some of the worst stat defenses in the game (not complaining about it- it helps balance things) and is second to the fencer on melee/ranged defense (again no compliants - it's a trade off). He was not a pure TKM or a Doctor TKM. A pure TKM with buffs could not solo a Krayt. A pure Carbineer with Doctor can. Having unlimited KD is an extremely powerful tool that many of your cohorts have learned to base their character around. Doing so they have overcome your classes weakness (of which there are many thatI hope get fixed for you) and they have learned how, using just Carbineer as their sole combat class, to become one of the most powerful combat machines around. Don't get upset at me if you are unable to come to terms with that and you are unable to do the same.

And please, actually take the time to reread what I've said. Show me where I asked for any sort of nerf. If I inadvertantly did then I apologize. All I did was note that Carbineers can be very effective if they use their unlimited KD properly. I also agreed with the original poster that combining Carbineer with another combat class can make for an effective combo. These are factual points. I am sorry if the facts threaten you so much. There is nothing I can do to help you there.

Happy Holidays.

Well, you are implying that a nerf is necessary, by calling it an "unlimited KD". To be more honest, and less spin-doctoring, one would call it a "HAM limited, low-to-average damage KD" as it currently stands. Yes, with doctor as a support profession, you can circumvent the HAM limitation, and just play an endurance game with the damage. But it's hardly "unlimited" -- you've just shifted the limit to your stim supply and crossing your fingers that you get lucky on KD resists and misses. It's an important distinction -- one has weaknesses, which, yes, an entire character template can circumvent, the other implies no drawbacks, and can thus be used with 44 skill points.

The template is Master Rifleman/TKM/Fencer 0440. Right now the defenses stack weirdly and the template is almost untouchable. Thats no reason to nerf any of those three professions, the defenses just shouldn't all stack on top of each other. If your using a rifle, the fencer defense shouldn't stack.