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Thread: Burstshot1 or FullAutoSingle2?

Greymarch
Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:01 pm
#1

If Xandor's numbers are correct, then FAS2 is better than BurstShot, if you dont care about HAM costs.


FAS2 = 5.5/1.7 = 3.235


BurstShot = 6.0/2.0 = 3.0



MadBarbarian
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:50 pm
#2

well since you just got burts shot 1 i wont call you a noob since you didnt know...


not all of us can be buffed..not all of us are medics....not all of us have pets


so pretty much burstshot 1 is better than FS2 due to the fact that it does more damage and is much easier on HAM....when you compare specials, dont compare them when you are buffed



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TAfirehawk
Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:32 pm
#3

This argument is quite funny. Lets stop the opinions and look at the facts....


The comments from us "regulars" will tell you that the TWO shots you need to level to Master are FullAutoSingle2 and BurstShot1, both gotten by 0010. The reason we say TWO is that FAS2 is the max DPS special before the Speed Cap. BurstShot1 and CrippleShot are close behind at slightly less than 8% lower. The reason BurstShot1 is brought up is when looking at DPS/HAM Cost it is the best shot, not FAS2.


So the facts are use FAS2 buffed and BurstShot1 when not buffed. Once you get higher into Carbineer and have a tank, then look to the AoE attacks of FullAutoArea2 and BurstShot2. Oh and don't forget ChargeShot1/2



BTW, all the data is in the STICKY post and my spreadsheet at www.tafirehawk.com/GoA if you don't believe me.





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aneb
Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:31 pm
#4

hello,


I say the problem with fas2 is that it has way to much ham cost


Im a novice carbineer but by the looks i thing burstshot is a lot better thanx fas2


I might not have the nuts and screws like these master carbineers but u cant get much worst on ham cost than fas2


Thats just me i have a composite suit and it sucks because i always dont have my stims with me or i dont have enough muon or brandy to capp out my mind!!!!


But i do know one thing and thats that burstshot is a lot better thanx fas2


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pentjaksilat
Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:54 pm
#5


it's been stated over and over, but generally w/ very long explanations, now that the facts are there...here's the blunt answer...

**ug...brainfart, got them swapped, let's try that again...


Not-BUFFED: /burstshot1


BUFFED: /fullautosingle2


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Message Edited by pentjaksilat on 03-30-2004 09:55 PM



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Greymarch
Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:13 am
#6

I gained Burstshot1 last night. Quite a few players on these messageboards have bragged about Burstshot1, so I decided to give it a try. I was less than impressed. I did quenker missions on Dantooine, and Burstshot was doing less damage than my FullAutoSingle2. I then spammed several carbineers on my server, and they all told me to use FullAutoSingle2 instead of Burstshot1.Why do so many people believe that Burstshot1 is better than FullAutoSingle2? Which one should I be using, and why?


BTW, my carbineer stats are 2/1/1/1. I use a laser carbine with 3.5 speed, and 56-340 damage. I get doctor-buffed during missions, but I dont wear armor (cant afford it yet), and I dont have any stat-enhancing equipment.


DoctorCoryn
Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:25 am
#7

BurstShot1 is WAY easier on your HAM than FAS... with comparable speed



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Greymarch
Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:26 am
#8

I never have HAM problems when I am buffed, and use FAS2.
Ajo79
Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:29 am
#9

I would say Burstshot 1 is stronger than FullAutoSingle2. I'm in the early stages of carbineer and from what I've experienced so far burstshot 1 is better.



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XAND0R
Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:54 am
#10



SpecialReload Modifier Damage Modifier HAM Modifier


FullAutoSingle2 1.7 5.5 1.6 / 2 / 0.5
BurstShot1 2.06.0 1.4 / 1.1 / 0.5






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Lickemlo
Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:15 am
#11

I mix em up and use both specials. FAS2 gives a blind and dizzy DoT if I remember correctly.



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DoctorCoryn
Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:23 am
#12






MadBarbarian wrote:

well since you just got burts shot 1 i wont call you a noob since you didnt know...


not all of us can be buffed..not all of us are medics....not all of us have pets


so pretty much burstshot 1 is better than FS2 due to the fact that it does more damage and is much easier on HAM....when you compare specials, dont compare them when you are buffed







not gonna happen with me... LOL


I'm a Doctor, why should I EVER be un-buffed??




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==Former HGate Chief Medical Officer==
Official Carbineer Motto: "Carbineer - Stunning crowds since Publish 7"

"The Irish MP's are NOT 'after me frosted lucky charms'"
satanis
Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:26 am
#13

The other factor is the speed cap.

Buffed, Hitting speed cap, then Burstshot1 as it has a higher damage mod.
Buffed, not hitting speed cap, use FAS2 as its slightly quicker.

Unbuffed - Burstshot1 because of the reduced ham costs regardless of speed!



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