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Thread: Stats on my new carbine
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Tyrst
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:03 pm
#1
Krayt Elite Carbine
175-349 Damage
2.4 Speed
47.7 Wound
+61 @ Ideal 40m
Let me know what you think
AriasImmortal
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:12 pm
#2
stats on the krayt tissues you used please 
its damn good, i wish i didn't keep getting generic tissues.
its damn good, i wish i didn't keep getting generic tissues.
pentjaksilat
Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:08 pm
#6
Shadowace156 wrote:
why would you use a elite and not a laser?
33%spd slice w/ 33max/16min PU, ClassIII Ranged Mitigation
PUM33%spd_dps ar0 ar1 WEAPON
130.7 131 65 DH17
107.1 134 107E11
119.2 11960 EE3
106.9 134 107 DXR6
81.4 127 102 Laser
108.5 136 108 Elite
130.7 131 65 DH17
107.1 134 107E11
119.2 11960 EE3
106.9 134 107 DXR6
81.4 127 102 Laser
108.5 136 108 Elite
+30/-.30 Krayt Tissue, form-fitted, stock30%dmg slice, 33max/16min PU, ClassIII Ranged Mitigation
WEAPON KSPU30%dmg_dps ar0 ar1
DH17244 244122
E11202 253 202
EE3209 209105
DXR6166208 166
Laser 139 217 173
Elite173 216 173
DH17244 244122
E11202 253 202
EE3209 209105
DXR6166208 166
Laser 139 217 173
Elite173 216 173
+100/-.8 Exceptional Krayt Tissue, form-fitted stock, 30%dmg slice, 33max/16min PU, ClassIII Ranged Mitigation
WEAPON XXXPU30%dmg_dps ar0 ar1
DH17 308.8 309 154
E11254.1 318 254
EE3 250.1250 125
DXR6 190.4 238 190
Laser129.4 202162
Elite 198.6 248 199
DH17 308.8 309 154
E11254.1 318 254
EE3 250.1250 125
DXR6 190.4 238 190
Laser129.4 202162
Elite 198.6 248 199
that's using avg'd stats from flurry/chimaera/eclipse...as you can see, mitigation makes the Elite the strongest, tho the Laser did the best w/ +30/-.30tissues, i double-checked it and it's correct, but that'll differ a little depending on your server.
mitigation hurts (tho does NOT ruin like many claim) a laser carbine in PVP, even when it's beaten by the elite/dxr6...it's not by much at all, and it's the clear winner against non-mitigating targets, since dxr6's take so many handlers (5...i.e.6 tissue)...they're not worth doing, either do an elite or a laser if you want a PVP weapon, elite's best w/ all the riflemen running around these days w/ mitigation.
~pentjak
pentjaksilat
Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:13 am
#8
double-checked thee11 stats, they're correct.
yes, e11's generally a very nice option when mitigation is considered (the bleed or poison or whatever's so weak i never factor it in).
something to consider is i only had weapon stats from 3 servers to work w/...and the elite stats on flurry are low compared to the other 2, so i'm assuming they're just low compared to most servers, which would mean on most other servers the dps for elites would be a bit higher.
another thing to consider, is those are just raw dps, but they do not factor in speed mods or the speed cap...which means if you put a form-fitted stock on a 2.6-2.7spd e11, then krayt tissue...you already have it down to 1.8-1.9spd unsliced, meaning...if you have +78carb speed or higher, you're going to be "wasting" the low speed of the e11 by hitting the cap so early, which would make the higher damage/lower speed on the laser/elite/dxr6 make all of them much more viable.
much to consider...enhancing e11's should never be an option that goes thru your head if you have BH speed or quite alot of carbine attachments tho.
~pentjak
Message Edited by pentjaksilat on 04-03-2004 07:14 AM
Tyrst
Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:16 pm
#9
Damage mitigation is exactly why I made these elites. I made 4 but 3 got speed slices, damn random rolls. I took a look at the numbers and also experimented with the best lasers/elites I could find on my server to find out which one was best in PvP. The Laser is hands down the best against melee classes but this is so rare on my server to find melee only classes that I decided to go with the elite. Also there is a weaponsmith on my server that puts out 300+ max damage lasers so I have one that is sliced for over 400 max damage. I will be having some lasers made once I aquire enough tissues to have 4 or 5 made.
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