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Thread: Carbineer is for crowd control? What about hunting in places like Corvette?
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neilc
Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:32 pm
#1
sounds cool dont it? carbineer is medium damage prof that gets lots of area attacks. But what about all the dungeons, will the bug be fixed with agro from other rooms attacking u when u area attack. im rifleman atm, using adv straffe gets mobs running form all over attacking me, but im liking the looks of BH/carbineer. After cu its looks like were gonna have to hunt in grps, who will want someone thatll bring the entire place beating on em? Any devs give some input on what will be done about this?
TAfirehawk
Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:34 pm
#2
You will have to load up TC5 and try it out once we get to the Elite Profs.....
TAfirehawk
Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:13 pm
#3
Reaperss wrote:
neilc wrote:
sounds cool dont it? carbineer is medium damage prof that gets lots of area attacks. But what about all the dungeons, will the bug be fixed with agro from other rooms attacking u when u area attack. im rifleman atm, using adv straffe gets mobs running form all over attacking me, but im liking the looks of BH/carbineer. After cu its looks like were gonna have to hunt in grps, who will want someone thatll bring the entire place beating on em? Any devs give some input on what will be done about this?
AOE bringing more mobs isn't a bug as far as I know. Remember we will also be good at applying states. And as A BH you will probably do real well in the dungeons.
It most certainly is a bug.....LoS should be fixed with the CU. I know hills work but haven't tried inside thru walls yet.
All States/Specials/Mods/Weapons/Armor/Buffs/Food/Spice/etc are changing....so unless you play the CU on TC5 I wouldn't make too many assumptions on who will do well and where....
Reaperss
Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:25 pm
#4
TAfirehawk wrote:
Reaperss wrote:
neilc wrote:
sounds cool dont it? carbineer is medium damage prof that gets lots of area attacks. But what about all the dungeons, will the bug be fixed with agro from other rooms attacking u when u area attack. im rifleman atm, using adv straffe gets mobs running form all over attacking me, but im liking the looks of BH/carbineer. After cu its looks like were gonna have to hunt in grps, who will want someone thatll bring the entire place beating on em? Any devs give some input on what will be done about this?
AOE bringing more mobs isn't a bug as far as I know. Remember we will also be good at applying states. And as A BH you will probably do real well in the dungeons.
It most certainly is a bug.....LoS should be fixed with the CU. I know hills work but haven't tried inside thru walls yet.
All States/Specials/Mods/Weapons/Armor/Buffs/Food/Spice/etc are changing....so unless you play the CU on TC5 I wouldn't make too many assumptions on who will do well and where....
ok, sorry thought it worked as intended. I'm on TC5, marksman 0032. Just haven't logged in since Sunday. To pissed off about the space minning and Cybernetics BS to concentrate on testing. I'll be back on and I'll test Carbineer/BH as soon as they let us.
VolvoSsixtyTsix
Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:56 pm
#5
I think you are misreading a bit. Carabineer will have a specials suited for crowd control, if you want a single target special go BH.
neilc
Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:12 pm
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yeah suited for crowd control, but what about when im shooting the mercs in the geos and i get agro from the spiders or genosians, who arnt in same room and run down the corridor to attack me? the spiders have to walk round several corners from there little cave to get to were im at.
To make it clearer, agro threw any type of wall is a big problem, it can mean death in the DWB or corvette, and this always happens when someone uses area attacks, the grp gets ganked or bugged by constant combat because some mob thats down the elevator agro u.
Message Edited by neilc on 04-06-2005 06:17 PM
VolvoSsixtyTsix
Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:27 pm
#7
I see you point, but no ALL carabine attacks will be area attacks. Crippling shot will probably stay as a single target attack. Yes I know the issue with cone attacks. While being on the Vette we got aggroed by NPCs from the bridge....I started spamming SS2. After NPCs died I was agroed by NPCs from all rooms surrounding the bridge. 8(
TAfirehawk
Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:44 pm
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neilc wrote:
yeah suited for crowd control, but what about when im shooting the mercs in the geos and i get agro from the spiders or genosians, who arnt in same room and run down the corridor to attack me? the spiders have to walk round several corners from there little cave to get to were im at.
To make it clearer, agro threw any type of wall is a big problem, it can mean death in the DWB or corvette, and this always happens when someone uses area attacks, the grp gets ganked or bugged by constant combat because some mob thats down the elevator agro u.
Message Edited by neilc on 04-06-2005 06:17 PM
Please read my post.....LoS is being fixed.....I can't be much more direct and plain than that.
Reaperss
Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:18 am
#9
neilc wrote:
sounds cool dont it? carbineer is medium damage prof that gets lots of area attacks. But what about all the dungeons, will the bug be fixed with agro from other rooms attacking u when u area attack. im rifleman atm, using adv straffe gets mobs running form all over attacking me, but im liking the looks of BH/carbineer. After cu its looks like were gonna have to hunt in grps, who will want someone thatll bring the entire place beating on em? Any devs give some input on what will be done about this?
AOE bringing more mobs isn't a bug as far as I know. Remember we will also be good at applying states. And as A BH you will probably do real well in the dungeons.
cleekjc
Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:18 am
#10
Well from what I can tell on TC5 the rules that apply to us DO NOT apply to the humanoid MOB's. I have had mobs shoot at me even though I have "diped" into a valley and I have had a lvl 3 spice fiend shoot at me (I am lvl 8 btw) and kick my arse with a laser carbine (which is totally FUBAR btw)....................I guess I should get a laser carb from the flue brog and use is since I am almost 3x the level of the laser carbweilding spice fiend................
Mild-Breeze-Trooper
Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:36 am
#11
TAfirehawk wrote:
Reaperss wrote:
neilc wrote:sounds cool dont it? carbineer is medium damage prof that gets lots of area attacks. But what about all the dungeons, will the bug be fixed with agro from other rooms attacking u when u area attack. im rifleman atm, using adv straffe gets mobs running form all over attacking me, but im liking the looks of BH/carbineer. After cu its looks like were gonna have to hunt in grps, who will want someone thatll bring the entire place beating on em? Any devs give some input on what will be done about this?AOE bringing more mobs isn't a bug as far as I know. Remember we will also be good at applying states. And as A BH you will probably do real well in the dungeons.It most certainly is a bug.....LoS should be fixed with the CU. I know hills work but haven't tried inside thru walls yet.
All States/Specials/Mods/Weapons/Armor/Buffs/Food/Spice/etc are changing....so unless you play the CU on TC5 I wouldn't make too many assumptions on who will do well and where....
Walls seem to work for LOS, but I don't know about area attacks. Hopefully they'll get the elite trainers up before the weekend and then I'll grind carbines like there was no tomorrow.
TAfirehawk
Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:48 am
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cleekjc wrote:
Well from what I can tell on TC5 the rules that apply to us DO NOT apply to the humanoid MOB's. I have had mobs shoot at me even though I have "diped" into a valley and I have had a lvl 3 spice fiend shoot at me (I am lvl 8 btw) and kick my arse with a laser carbine (which is totally FUBAR btw)....................I guess I should get a laser carb from the flue brog and use is since I am almost 3x the level of the laser carbweilding spice fiend................
Yes that has been bugged.....hopefully fixed soon.
And today or tomorrow the Elite Profs should open up and we can test this.....
Necriscoth
Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:05 am
#13
When are the elite trainers coming back....I'll have carbines 4 by the end of the week. Also, I heard rumor that blue frogs might go live for CU testing soon.
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