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Thread: Master Carbineer/Master TKA

TheJawaJubbo
Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:40 am
#1

TKA for defense after the CU and carbineer for a starwarsy feel combat toon. any thoughts?



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GeekLordAragorn12
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:51 am
#2

Yep, that's what I'm grinding out right now. It's perfect - stay back in the begininning, apply your states, then when things get tough, switch to a knuckler and do your stuff. Not to mention, you'll still get the defenses of TK while weilding a Carbine.



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KyiasLightsun
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:00 am
#3

Just remember:


The moment you equip armor your TK def goes away....TKA is an unarmored class now.




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GeekLordAragorn12
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:45 am
#4






KyiasLightsun wrote:

Just remember:


The moment you equip armor your TK def goes away....TKA is an unarmored class now.






yes, but you can still use TKA defenses(without armor) while using a carb. And TKA defenses are MUCH better.



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memnoch37
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:53 am
#5






GeekLordAragorn12 wrote:





KyiasLightsun wrote:

Just remember:


The moment you equip armor your TK def goes away....TKA is an unarmored class now.






yes, but you can still use TKA defenses(without armor) while using a carb. And TKA defenses are MUCH better.





I believe he was referring to TK post CU. Unless you have a TK Master on TC5 there's no way to know if TK defenses are 'better' than standard armor. The idea is they should be the same.






Memnoch

TAfirehawk
Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:46 am
#6






memnoch37 wrote:





GeekLordAragorn12 wrote:





KyiasLightsun wrote:

Just remember:


The moment you equip armor your TK def goes away....TKA is an unarmored class now.






yes, but you can still use TKA defenses(without armor) while using a carb. And TKA defenses are MUCH better.





I believe he was referring to TK post CU. Unless you have a TK Master on TC5 there's no way to know if TK defenses are 'better' than standard armor. The idea is they should be the same.







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Natural TKA Defenses are not meant to be better or worse than Armor at this point.....and nobody has a clue yet because it hasn't been tested and tweaked.




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lycanthropy
Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:22 am
#7

what? we can still defense stack? having TK defenses while having a carbine equiped? i thought the CU was nerfing defense stacking...hell now i got to decide on a second elite combat to go with carbines



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TAfirehawk
Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:14 am
#8






lycanthropy wrote:

what? we can still defense stack? having TK defenses while having a carbine equiped? i thought the CU was nerfing defense stacking...hell now i got to decide on a second elite combat to go with carbines







Stacking a template full of 250 Skill Points in combat will always be better than just a MBH or TKM or any other single elite master.



Will defense stack like they do now....well we haven't tested it but there are all new formula that follow the law of diminishing returns so it should be a lot different in power level from today on LIVE.




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Sylow
Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:23 am
#9






Will defense stack like they do now....well we haven't tested it but there are all new formula that follow the law of diminishing returns so it should be a lot different in power level from today on LIVE.




Actually i see a big point why this, at least in PvP, won't be that striking any more... you now also have offense stacking.


It reads like "general ranged accuracy" and "general ranged speed" for example. These modifiers can be found in several ranged professions, so if you for example have pistoleer and rifleman, they will add up.


According to the Character Builder, the combination of Master Pistoleer and Master Rifleman for example would leave you with these skills:


General Ranged Accuracy +180
General Ranged Speed +40
Pistol Accuracy +40
Pistol Speed +45
Rifle Accuracy +85
Rifle Speed +65


If you then use a pistol, you'll effectively have an accuracy of 225 and speed of 85. With a rifle you'd have an accuracy of 265 and speed of 105.


Due to these numbers now also adding up, the cumulative defence will matter less than now, where you get your accuracy only from one profession.







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Darknyt13
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:28 pm
#10


Stacking a template full of 250 Skill Points in combat will always be better than just a MBH or TKM or any other single elite master.

Will defense stack like they do now....well we haven't tested it but there are all new formula that follow the law of diminishing returns so it should be a lot different in power level from today on LIVE.






when are we going to be let in on what all these numbers actually mean?



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