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Thread: Sick and tired of 14 year old melee whiners

Ateus_Silverbane
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:16 pm
#1

This game could use a little realism, not realism to life, realism to the movies is all i want. So, ask your fourteen year old self this, in the movies, did 1 jedi ever die due to being hit with a bare fist or power hammer, i think not. The only time jedi were killed by non jedi os when they faced superior numbers.



Yes, i would like to see 9 pistoleers fall dead at the hands of a riflemen. I would also like to see 10 riflemen fall dead at the hands of a carbineer at medium range. And i support melee as a secondary, not a primary form of attack. If you dont believe me watch return of the jedi and watch luke kill 5 weequay pikeman without breaking a sweat.


The only reason i play this game is because of its realism within its setting. It is not realistic to our culture, but to its source material it is in most cases. It has a realistic economy, and characters may partake in many realistic actions such as eating, healing, real estate, etc.


Melee stopped being effective in our culture 200 years ago, and star wars is way ahead of us, so melee should have very little place there. I don't claim to have the solution, but melee being the most powerful profession is not the answer.

If your fourteen or under, disregaurd this post and keep leveling fencer You have plenty of life left to figure out why you are wrong.

And if you are a dev, please take me and many others seriously, melee belongs in everquest NOT SWG.

And when i see the first x wing with a mechanical sword arm owning everyone, i will quit this game.


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jussblaze
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:25 pm
#2




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FoeHammerOne
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:28 pm
#3

How does this have anything to with Carbineers? Why are you trolling on our board? This board is generally troll/flame free, please go elsewhere.



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Deko
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:29 pm
#4

Why blame 14-year-olds for all your troubles?
DaLoco1
Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:00 pm
#5

You know what Im sick of, is whiners like you that think this game should be exactly like the movies. It just can't work that way. You can't just get rid of 4 professions just like that. Quit trolling nub.



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Otegu123
Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:07 pm
#6






Ateus_Silverbane wrote:
This game could use a little realism, not realism to life, realism to the movies is all i want. So, ask your fourteen year old self this, in the movies, did 1 jedi ever die due to being hit with a bare fist or power hammer, i think not. The only time jedi were killed by non jedi os when they faced superior numbers.



Yes, i would like to see 9 pistoleers fall dead at the hands of a riflemen. I would also like to see 10 riflemen fall dead at the hands of a carbineer at medium range. And i support melee as a secondary, not a primary form of attack. If you dont believe me watch return of the jedi and watch luke kill 5 weequay pikeman without breaking a sweat.


The only reason i play this game is because of its realism within its setting. It is not realistic to our culture, but to its source material it is in most cases. It has a realistic economy, and characters may partake in many realistic actions such as eating, healing, real estate, etc.


Melee stopped being effective in our culture 200 years ago, and star wars is way ahead of us, so melee should have very little place there. I don't claim to have the solution, but melee being the most powerful profession is not the answer.

If your fourteen or under, disregaurd this post and keep leveling fencer You have plenty of life left to figure out why you are wrong.

And if you are a dev, please take me and many others seriously, melee belongs in everquest NOT SWG.

And when i see the first x wing with a mechanical sword arm owning everyone, i will quit this game.


IF YOU HAVE NOT READ HOW SOE BROKE THE GUN DO SO NOW






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But seriously, i do agree that melee is overpowered on the whole. This is a starwars game and its nice to see a fight with just blasters and lasers everywhere. But this is a GAME and it needs balance and variation. Yeah a jedi in the movie can kill 5 pikeman without a sweat, i dont think thats fun for a game, for 1 profession to completely dominate all others. Melee adds more variety..if everyoneused pistols, carbines or rifles i think the game would be muchless exciting. whereas atm there are different tactics involved in dealing with either ranged or melee, that imo make pvp a little more fun


I certainly agree that melee need to be toned down a lot, and ranged should have the advantage, but i still like to fight a melee now and again..only atm i find myself fighting them all the time







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fr00g
Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:21 pm
#7

the 14 year olds are the ranged idiots who can't stand not killing everything in 1 hit ie you



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Ateus_Silverbane
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:11 pm
#8

ok since this got everyone to read this, ive done my job


A) I am not fourteen, nor do i blame 14 year olds for the problems with this game, as i dont know any fourteen year olds on SOE's payroll (Although i have my doubts about some csr's)


B) This game is frustrating, and the best professions require no skill to use. If the pvp damage reduction was removed and 1 to 2 hits killed, this game would be more battle like and exciting. Whats more fun, sitting for 5 minutes getting pummelled by an idiot with a stun baton, or shooting it out at range and getting picked off and then cloning and coming back. They should remove decay for pvp so ppl are less hesitant to participate. I know a lot of ppl dont like losing all their faction and running their 300k stun comp into the ground for a fun night of pvp.


C) What would be so bad about removing melee as a primary force in this game. Every time i see a melee stacker kil a jedi, it makes me sick. Yes, i believe jedi should be able to kill anyone one on one with no effort. They worked hard to get jedi, and they deserve it.

Am I the only one that cares about any realism in this game?

If i am then this is my last post . Period.
Ateus_Silverbane
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:14 pm
#9

Oh, and dont get so offended, i mean none of you can handle any challenge to the system

Also, this is not YOUR board, it is the property of whoever owns and operates the servers, which is most definately not you. I am not a troll, and i do not believe them to be in existance.

Have a nice day
KillaJohn
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:16 pm
#10

The Star Wars universe isn't beyond melee combat. If you read the books, you'll note that the best and most reverred fighterr, save jedi, are usually melee fighters. Granted that these melee fighters are generally masters of unarmed combat, not using sticks and archaic swords. But, at a distance, even the greatest of melee fighters will fall to the ranged fighters, especially if they're masters of their ranged form of combat. Likewise, when close up, even the greatest of ranged fighters will fall quickly and easily to a melee fighter. This has been true throughout our history and that of Star Wars. There are exceptions, such as Jango or Boba Fett, who are masters of basically all forms of combat, and against whom most fighters will fall, no matter the circumstances. The problem with this game is that the distance has no bearing whatsoever. A rifleman is still far too effective at melee range, and a melee fighter can easily close the distance between themself and their opponent. If this game were realistic, then rifleman would only be effective at a distance, and be extremely effective at that distance. Pistoleers would be considerably uneffevctive at long range, decent at medium range, and very effective at close range. Carbineers would be extremely versatile, being able to fight at a long distance or in close range, but not to the effect of a Rifleman or Pistoleer. The melee classes would be extremely injured by the time they reach their ranged opponents, but when they do, would quickly and effectively take their opponent out. This is why there are groups with different types of fighters. The ranged fighters cover the melee fighters as they go in for the kill. That would be realistic. But, people cant be happy with that, they want everyone to equal chance in combat all the time, which is retarded. The Combat Rebalance should actually be the Combat Unbalance, so as to make this game and people's profession choices based on the professions themselves and how they fight, not if they can do Stun damage or target the mind pool. Different types of fighters have their advantages ion certain situations, and also have their disadvantages. The sole exception to this is the Jedi.

Anyways, thats just my 2 cents sorry for the rant



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DaLoco1
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:18 pm
#11

God get your info right, there IS no decay in PVP... this is a game, not real life, and if there was 1 or 2 hits and u died u would **edit** about that too.



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galvatronicus
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:29 pm
#12






Deko wrote:

Why blame 14-year-olds for all your troubles?






HAHA!



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Therascalking3
Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:38 am
#13

couple of points to add to this discussion


1.) if this isnt supposed to be based on movies and books of star wars than what is it based on? You are totally wrong about this premise. The game isnt strictly based on it and that is really screwing a lot of it up for everyone.


2.) Carbineer forums are not free of trolls. A couple of weeks ago this board changed dramatically for the worse. Around the time news came out of the TC carbines there have been an abudance of FOTM posts. Recently it has moved from FOTM to general complaints about griefing and the combat system in general. Also recently the forums have been flooded with a larger percentage of BS stories about the amazing successes of carbineers. Yes i know with the right tactics we can be effective but honestly most of these stories are ridculously over exaggerated. This in fact used to be a forum separated from the rest of the forums, but it has changed an im sure TAfirehawk would agree.


on a side note be fair. Its not only 14 year olds many are 12,13, or 15. And also there are plenty of people that are in their 20s 30s and 40s who grief because there are sadistic people in this world and actually it is just sometimes fun to see a bunch of annoying people really get it. Many of those who are griefed deserve it and many of the griefers are frequently hunted down and slaughtered for their actions. (i heard occasionally by CSRs) so chill.



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