Carbineer Archive

Thread: A little Help if You Please

RS_Talon
Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:33 am
#1

Hey gang. I have a quick question I hope you can help me with. Currently I'm a 0 4 0 4 Carbineer with BH carbs 4. So I duel one of my guild mates last night and quickly apply a dizzy / knockdown on him and begin nailing him with confusion shot, cripple shot, and fullauto2. Now the problem is I'm not doing any damage to him. I was using a laser carbine and he was wearing composite armor. So he got up and I put him back down with the same results. He gets up again, switches to Rifle and suddenly Im looking up at the sky (and my incap timer). So my question is what was I doing wrong? Is it because I have yet to master that no damage was being produced? Please help.


Talon



Talon Starblazer
One Pissed Off Former SOE Customer
TAfirehawk
Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:59 am
#2

It has nothing to do with Carbineer.....Master gets no magic damage bonus.....


You are fighting his uber armor and buffs, which is no different than any other prof. not just Carbineer. And obviously you don't have decent armor or you would have been just fine with him switching to a Rifle.


85% base, 40% Stun, 80% Elec is STANDARD Comp these days for anybody half-way serious about PvP......





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

RS_Talon
Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:21 am
#3

Actually I did have decent armor on. 80% resists (except Stun but he was using a T21). The problem was I was doing 56 to 80 points of damage per attack while his master headshot was clipping me for 400 to 500. I didn't know if this low damage output was normal for a carbineer or not. My laser carb is pretty good on its damage scale (dont remember stats off the top of my head). I just found it disturbing that I had him on his back and has hitting for 56 damage.


Talon



Talon Starblazer
One Pissed Off Former SOE Customer
TAfirehawk
Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:25 am
#4

Use a DXR6 as I just posted in another thread.....he probably had a PSG on too.


There is no reason a T21 should hit you that hard, something else is going on here.....



BTW, use a Laser against a Melee person.....





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Darth_Doofus
Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:41 am
#5

Against Master Ranged and armor users @&*#$^ the Laser, go DXR6 or Elite. I like the elite because the DXR6 is slower than i prefer, but really either will work. they both have good Min damages and Still Light Armor piercing.



It all comes down to mitigation. Melee users have Melee mitigation, which means if I'm using a scythe thats 146-336 in 1.7, The damage multiplier for my specials goes on the 146, if my enemy has melee mitigation 3, If its 2, its around in between the min and max, melee mit 1 is near the max damage, but not fully


Ranged mitigation works the same way. My laser carbine(built for speed until i can find enough speed tapes) is 45-330 in 3.0. With Ranged mitigation 1 against it, My cripple shot(damage multiplier X7) would multiply around 290 X7. Ranged mit 2, around 125 X7, Ranged mit 3, and its 45 X7. So basically i'd get the same deal out of a CDEF carbine in PvP. Thats why people use Elites or DXR6s, Because their Min damages are much higher than the laser carbine's. In PvP, Minimum damage is all that matters, max damage is only useful in PvE, because MOBs dont have Mitigation.


Ranged and Melee defense just extend mitigation and cause less and less damage



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