Carbineer Archive

i have seen a few elite carbines that are pretty good lately, my buddy kietharr had one that was like mid100's-mid200 damage with ok speed and the usual HAMs

so are elites supposed to be AR3?

if so, then with some HAM fixes, they would make pretty nice all around guns.

elites are AR"light' or 1

Unfortunately, the Carbineers only get newb level weapons such as the Laser Carbine. A bounty hunter can use the same weapon, of course they also get their own special carbine, because after all the bounty hunter must never be equal to any two other players. Basically our profession has no point (sorry but I've been killed by too many BH's while trying to use the old laser carbine).

Elites CAN be very good guns - can being the key word there. They are wholly dependent on a specific resource(I can't recall, some type of iron maybe?) and if it spawns with poor qualites, the gun will be poor.

That being said - the "trends" of the elite seem to be very high minium damage and decently high maximum damage, and good range mods, HAM/speed similar to a laser carbine(at least on Starstrider).

I think its AR should be bumped up to 2- and specific resource requirements removed.

Honestly, even with AP1 it just doesn't cut it...

Slightly higher damage than my DH17, same HAM usage as a laser...

Until they make it AP3 (which I doubt they'll do) or AP2 or increase the base damage or SOMETHING I refuse to use it.

", of course they also get their own special carbine, because after all the bounty hunter must never be equal to any two other players. Basically our profession has no point (sorry but I've been killed by too many BH's while trying to use the old laser carbine)."

Firstly...did i miss something when did a BH get its own carbine...we have a scatterpistol thats all so if someones going to whine it should be pistoleer ... but htey cant becasue theres really very little difference between the DX2 and Scatter Pistol. Secondly, why are you using a lasercarbine still? You have 2 other decent carbines from marksman that you can use that are really nice, plus if the ELITE is made with HQ resources i hear its superb...complain about the lack of resources for them if naything. Third, Stop whining why dont you learn how to fight. There are many facotrs beside weaopn strenght that will determine the outcome..Mods, Armor, amror costs, amror effectives against your weapons and attacks, weapon speed, inclimate wearhter distance, LUCK....there are way more thigns then just the fact of needing a bter gun or you need higher mods(which BH get no DEFENSE mods at all)...Ive been spanked in battle... I don'tt blame them for having better skills, i chalk it up to the fact that im merely not as good as they are and i have much to learn. You need to learn strategies theres a differnet gun for each job.

Reldragothe,

(IVe been them all except crafting so stop your whining)

hehe Rel don't talk defense with a carbineer.

Carbineer isone of 2ranged combat classes out there with the lowest ranged defense, both Carbineer and pistoleer at master have +7 to ranged defense - a bounty hunter has +24 ranged defense.

Carbineer is THE ranged combat class out there with the lowest melee defense (carbineer has none), commando's, BH's, pistoleers and riflemen all have higher, granted som of these are not much higher.

So to compare on defense:

Carbineers have 17 ranged defense lower than a bounty hunter

Carbineers have +15 def vs knockdown higher than bounty hunter

Carbineers have +15 def vs intimidate higher than bounty hunter

Sure carbineers have counterattack, it works in PvE but really not sure if it works in PvP.

So all in all the defense of the bounty hunter isn't THAT much worse than that of the carbineer. But to say that the BH gets no defense at all is plain wrong.

Yeah mods play a big part in the outcome of fights, and yet the carbineer doesn't shine here either.

just got a new elite carbine yesterdy, 113-177dmg speed 2.8 its slightly better than my previous one, and now its definetly clearly superior to my ee3, but it still doesn't cut it. Carbineers should get something thats at least competitive with the T21

I have an Elite carbine 133-230 speed 3.6 (damage sliced) HAM cost 26 43 26. My minimum damage is 200, average is between 250-300.

Burstshot1 shoot for more than 1 k.

But people still told me that the laser is better.

I'd like the 'elite' has the same piercing than the laser and it'll be a great weapon.

Why the only fix they do was to break our posture move ? Not only they put a timer but now, they are so difficult to success, I wonder how we can be crowd control ?

elite are okay if u get a good dmg slice....

I have an elite with only 19% dmg slice and does 120 to 220 or so... but the AIM is insane on it.. +48 @ 40'm's, if I had my usual sice it would be around 135 to 140 to 250 with the aim it's impressive not to mention at 3.5 speed.