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Ocain

Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:05 am

well this came to me in a dream, lol

im thinkin Commando will get the Underslung Carbine, and carbineer is gettin the Czerka Dart Carbine.

Darts are used to knockout / stun opponents and animals right......

notice the word stun.

Im betting this will be a cert for master carbineer and will do decent stun damage

youll be like fencer, but with range ! and u can get krayt tissue for cheaper than aklay bones

i bet carbineer is soon goin to be lots of fun and, hell i might pick it up if it goes this direction

just a thought, enjoy

TKA-MC

Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:10 am

#2

I being a Commando would love to get another weapon. I am going to like Patch10.

Dysinn Rahl (Gorath)
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"Quiquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur." ("Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.")

Ocain

Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:21 am

#3

me too

commando is hella fun i used to be one too, but had to get a different prof when i went doc

i hope u guys get a new weapon, you deserve it

so does carbineer tho, and this dart carbine sounds like what theyve been needing

cause to me carbines and pistols seem like they should own pvp and rifles should be semi pve / support but able to hold their own

Kaelle_DB

Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:19 am

#4

If it was going to be a commando weapon they would probably call it something else, like light repeating cannon or something of that nature. It would be bigger too, the underslung carbine is only about the sizeof an elite.

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Rarool

Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:31 am

#5

If carbineers don't get the

underslung CARBINE

Im gonna poop on a dev...

big nasty wookie poop

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Sid_Viscious

Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:46 am

#6

Man Carbineer already is the ownage..

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Like i need a proffesion to kick ass!!

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Ocain

Fri Aug 13, 2004 1:24 pm

#7

Brilyn wrote:
< will do decent stun damage >

Wait, isn't that a contradiction?

Why, yes, I think it is.

no

lol

Zarchad

Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:06 pm

#8

Why stun??

Seriously, people have become to dependant on stun damage, just like they have with buffs

(It IS possible to hunt on dathomir, unbuffed and with a good ubese) (( Ok, not as carbineer though,

))

Another damage type for carbineers is a must, but I am not sure stun would be the best answer.

Lets see.

PvE: Many things have vuln to stun but stun damage weapons that recuire no loot to craft all has a very low damage output and in most cases you will get a higher damage output by using something else on the MoB.

Sure, if our new stun carbine demanded high end loot components then it would be alright. Then it would probably have high enough damage to make it worthwhile to actually use in PvE, but then only very few people will be able to enjoy these weapons and that is kinda boring since its the first new carbine to be released.

I rather go with some other kind of damage that would allow us to be of use even in high end PvE. Cold or electricity maybe?

PvP: Here is the reason why many want stun damage. Sure stun is usefull but remember that if combat revamp ever hit us this damage type is likely to get seriously nerfed. I rather get a gun that stays usefull.

Second, stun isnt recuired to win in PvP.

Think about it, if a player knows that your profession has access to stun damage he is naturaly gonna think that stun is what you gonna use on him and therefor he most likely will have stun armor ready. (Most PvP players have stun armor already as I am sure you all are aware of

).

Back in the days when I tried other non-carbineer professions I won alot of fights because the other players took for granted that I would use stun. (Not even the feared Jawa Ion rifle is any good vs a comp helmet with 39% stun protection)

What I do think we carbineers need though is a new AP2 carbine with a bit more stable damage than our laser carbine.

Sure, it can inflict great damage but you cant rely on it.

Perhaps something like the Elite carbine but with AP2 and cold damage?

This would also be quite usefull in PvP since not many comp have special protection vs cold and the AP2 would give it quite the punch.

Message Edited by Zarchad on 08-13-2003 04:07 PM

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RebRifle

Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:23 pm

#9

cool i just bought an alt and i think i gonna get a carbineer.

Nagabacca

Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:59 pm

#10

What good is another damage type? Who cares about special resists? High-end armor is 40% stun, with a high base resist that will slice to 80-90%.

Every profession asks for more damage types. What we really need, is an armor nerf / revamp.

The game needs to have situations where wearing certain armor is better than others; presently composite can completely cover you bar lightsaber: the game needs armor with increased and varied vulns.

Oh, and an AP2 Cold damage carbine? lol.

Naga

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Zarchad

Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:04 pm

#11

Nagabacca wrote:

What good is another damage type? Who cares about special resists? High-end armor is 40% stun, with a high base resist that will slice to 80-90%.

Every profession asks for more damage types. What we really need, is an armor nerf / revamp.

The game needs to have situations where wearing certain armor is better than others; presently composite can completely cover you bar lightsaber: the game needs armor with increased and varied vulns.

Oh, and an AP2 Cold damage carbine? lol.

Naga

I fully agree with you that armor need to be revamped badly. BUT! We cant only think of the PvP aspect, there are many out there who enjoy PvE, it is for these players that carbineer need a new damage type, as it is now carbineer is nearly shut out of any high end PvE.

Edit: Oh? Whats so funny about a AP2 cold carbine? Itsno waynear as funny and unrealistic as a hammer with BLAST damage. (Or the rifleman's cold rifle for that matter as well. Cant remember its name though)

Message Edited by Zarchad on 08-13-2004 11:09 PM

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Brilyn

Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:44 am

#12

< will do decent stun damage >

Wait, isn't that a contradiction?

Why, yes, I think it is.

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Nagabacca

Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:19 am

#13

Zarchad wrote:

Edit: Oh? Whats so funny about a AP2 cold carbine? Itsno waynear as funny and unrealistic as a hammer with BLAST damage. (Or the rifleman's cold rifle for that matter as well. Cant remember its name though)

What is funny, is that if you read all of the combat boards, you will find similar themes:

"we need a new damage type"

"we need higher AP"

"we need faster weapons"

"we need more defenses"

Someone on the Fencer board recently suggested making the stun baton AP1.

On the Swordsman board, someone has suggested making the powerhammer AP3.

... and someone on the Carbineer board has suggested give theman AP2 Cold dmg weapon.

All these people are making selfish suggestions, without taking a look at the bigger picture.

You say Carbineer is poor in PVE... but what about Fencer? What about the poor TKM with AP1 kinetic damage only?

Not every profession is supposed to be good at everything.

Naga

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