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Thread: Has anyone ever tried this template?

Mavarus
Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:15 pm
#1

master heavy swordsman/rifleman 4000/doctor 0340



rifleman for range mind bleed and headshot


doctor 0340 for good buffs


or should I go master HS/master rifleman/ medic 4344 (can still make good stims and heal well)




Telkhar
^-^-^-^-^
-I would support keeping & balancing the current combat system.
But I get the feeling they don't care.

ccmetal555
Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:21 pm
#2

Can you tell me the purpose of the builds? PvP or PvE oriented? What kind of enemies do you want to be able to take down?

ThaWhiteKnight
Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:20 pm
#3

My template is

Master H Sword

Master Brawler

Master Rifle


Marksman 4 0 0 0


Novice Medic



I have a 2nd character that is Master Doctor Master Musician... I talked my Girl Friend into getting into the game so she can dance... so I have access to


Master Doc

Master Musician

Master Dancer


When I go into PvP All 9 of my stats are fully buffed. 2 accounts is not for everyone so... If you cannot have access to a Master Doc any other way I would recommend you get Doc.
ccmetal555
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:01 pm
#4

For doc join a guild with an active doctor. We have a great doctor in our guild, makes things a ton better.

BillS21
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:09 pm
#5

Buffing really isn't effective until you reach MD. Relying on other people to make less than 90 MU Buff Packs can be tedious and expensive. My advice would be to drop the Doc skills and put them into something else.



Amoc Fifio
Ex-StarSider PvPer, R.I.P. 10/22/04
Mavarus
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:56 pm
#6

Thanks for the input. The more I think about it master brawler/master HS/master rifleman sounds very appealing. I love my stim Cs, so I want to keep medic 0044.



Telkhar
^-^-^-^-^
-I would support keeping & balancing the current combat system.
But I get the feeling they don't care.

Mavarus
Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:01 pm
#7

I finally decided,


Master heavy swordsman


Master rifleman


Medic 3044


Marksman 4004





Telkhar
^-^-^-^-^
-I would support keeping & balancing the current combat system.
But I get the feeling they don't care.

Sotaudi
Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:03 pm
#8

I have the same template as TheWhiteKnight: Master Rifleman/Master Swordsman/Master Brawler with some medic.


The comments I would make on your suggested template is that you will probably be disappointed with the Rifleman side of it. You pickup all the accuracy, you get Mindshot2, Headshot3, Supriseshot, and Snipershot with that build. However, they have so severely nerfed bleeds, that they are not that useful at the moment. When I leveled before hte bleed nerf, you could stack 4 bleeds. You could easily average over 4k bleeds doing that. Now, you get 1 bleed running, and it is reduced by armor and resists now. You will probably not even see even a 1k bleed any more. In PvP, it is even less. Figure on a 100 - 200 at best.


Headshot3 is a good shot, but its costs on your own mind are enormous. You will not be using it unbuffed (mind)or without muon or mind foods that enhance focus.


Surpriseshot is not used that much and is supposed to require you being under cover, which also is not used much.


Snipershot is a definite plus, but only for PvP, and if your primary means of killing people ends up being the Sword, what do you need a ranged DB for?


The real problem, however, is that you do not have any of the Rifle Special Abiities boxes, meaning you are shooting at Novice level speeds. Using a 7 second T21, that Headshot3 is going to take 9.8 seconds per shot. Using a speed sliced Laser you may be able to get down to 7.7 seconds per shot. Using a Jawa or E11, you can probably get in the neighborhood of 5.6 second per shot. You can improve on those with a speed slice and speed powerup, but then you are sacrificing a lot of damage in doing so.


You also get none of the defensive bonuses or ranged mitigation that come from Rifle. Rifle is simply not a dabbler's profession.


The Doc is good in that you can always buff yourself, and heal state effects, but you will not be using the rifle much with that build. But if you go that route, you may want to consider Rifles 0-0-0-4 instead. That would give you all the speed bonuses, except for the boost at Master. With that build you could fire Headshot2 (slightly less damage, but faster and using a lot less HAM) with that T21 at 3.8, the Laser at 3, and the Jawa or E11 around 2.2 seconds per shot. Of course this gives you Flurryshot1 and Flurryshot2 both of which dizzy and the latter is area effect. Alternatively, you could go Rifles 2-0-0-2 and get some additional speed, some additional accuracy, plus Mindshot2, Headshot3, and Flurryshot1.


But to be really satisfied with the Rifleman side, you really need to master it.





Sotaudi Crestlighter
Master Rifleman / Master Combat Medic
"The Physician's Pain Reference"

Former Professions
Master Doctor | Master Swordsman | Master Brawler
Master Scout | Ranger



Janann
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:38 pm
#9


BillS21 wrote:
Buffing really isn't effective until you reach MD. Relying on other people to make less than 90 MU Buff Packs can be tedious and expensive. My advice would be to drop the Doc skills and put them into something else.


With +25 Wound Treatment clothes 0440 doc can buff master doc level buffs. My best buffs have been around 3k, so they are not bad at all. And if you make a big custom order, you don't have to worry about finding buffs packs for many weeks or months.



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Janann
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BryianN
Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:23 am
#10

Someone probably has tried this template and how good it was for them in PvP. Of course some Carbine Speed SEAS are needed.
Master Carbineer, 4004 CM, and 4030 Doctor? You'd have the ability to heal all states(poison and disease) plus apply poisons/diseases to help make killing your opponent quicker.



BRYIAN
Novice Sig Stealer
My rare box of SWG


novamarine
Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:30 am
#11


That is a popular template for PvP dabblers. Seems to work well or it did prior to the CM changes. Not sure how it plays now.
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