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Thread: +80 CounterAttack vs ChargeShot2(tree)

irSilentDeath
Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:41 pm
#1

what do you guys think???


i already have spray shot(mbh) as well as crippleshot. it's now either 80 counterattack or getting chargeshot2



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Looking For PoleArm Speed(looking for +13 to cap)
israiley
Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:28 am
#2

go for chargeshot2, 80 of counterattack is a joke against against master elite combat professions who all get accuracies of way over 100,and at 80 you'll barely ever counterattack against white con npc's



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Cakins7005
Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:20 am
#3

Counterattack, dodge, and block are worthless unless you have a master of an elite melee profession's center of being mod. You should preferably have Master Brawler level center of being with it. I am muchbetter with the new +125 counterattack cap with Master Brawler center of being, than with the default +190 that I have without cob.



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Mafaza
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:41 am
#4

I prefer the counterinsurgency line to the accuracy line. Acc didn't seem to do squat for me, but with 0040, I find that enemies miss quite often. Chargeshot is great. Chargeshot2 will be the bomb. Right now I'm 0043. After Pub 7, I'll be 0034.





Mafaza------------------------------------Oomfama
Master Bounty Hunter, chilastra----------------Brawler, Pikeman, Fencer, chilastra
"KD+Dizzy = fun!"-----------------------------------"Wacking with sticks"

rexrobinson
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:57 am
#5

The accuracy will be a major factor when defense stackers get capped out, because even with the cap, people will stall have a ahrd time hitting them even at master levels unless they do some accuracy stacking


0304 Carbine (MBH) will have +155 to accuracy and +20 accuracy while moving, as well as having access to 2 AWESOME carbineer specials Chargeshot 2 and cripple shot at the speed cap


/confusionshot /chargeshot2 /confusionshot /cripplingshot thats a nasty nasty combo with a damage sliced krayt laser carb even with high level comp armor on the target.



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novamarine
Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:14 am
#6

I really think people are expecting too much from chargeshot2. I might be wrong, but KD just aren't what they used to be. It will certainly define our class, but I do not believe it will make us uber.


What I am looking forward to is a Rifleman running in with strafeshot2 and a Carbineer following that up with Chargeshot2. PvP needs these types of force amplification effects taking place between the classes so that strategy becomes more important than min/maxing your template.


Mafaza
Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:23 am
#7

I'm looking forward to fullautoarea2;/actionshot2, personally. Both very spammable.





Mafaza------------------------------------Oomfama
Master Bounty Hunter, chilastra----------------Brawler, Pikeman, Fencer, chilastra
"KD+Dizzy = fun!"-----------------------------------"Wacking with sticks"

rexrobinson
Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:33 am
#8






novamarine wrote:

I really think people are expecting too much from chargeshot2. I might be wrong, but KD just aren't what they used to be.






Well, hereare the 2 MAIN reason why so many MBH want Chargeshot 2,


#1 Of course the AoE Knockdown, Jedi usualy have protectors and this will help control them


#2 Underhand shot/Fire knockdown are Weak at best, "You have failed to knock down your target" comes up way more often with underhand/fire knockdown than it does with chargeshot 1 (I mastered carbineer on my first holo, and am a MBH now I can attest to this)


The carbineer Knockdowns are more reliable than the BH line knockdowns, if Full auto area 2 works after the patch, man a MBH 0304 Carbineer will be a force to reckon with.


most BH out there will tell you there favorite weapon of choice is the carbine









31 proffesions mastered 1 force sensitve slot unlocked May 27. 2004
novamarine
Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:10 pm
#9






rexrobinson wrote:





novamarine wrote:

I really think people are expecting too much from chargeshot2. I might be wrong, but KD just aren't what they used to be.







Well, hereare the 2 MAIN reason why so many MBH want Chargeshot 2,


#1 Of course the AoE Knockdown, Jedi usualy have protectors and this will help control them








Yup, you will have them totally under your control for 5 seconds...
Mafaza
Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:56 pm
#10






TAfirehawk wrote:


And you are doing this on TC with a Master Carbineer right? Because if not you need to repeat first grade.....or hope they add CLUE to the /find command.





Rude, yet very funny.





Mafaza------------------------------------Oomfama
Master Bounty Hunter, chilastra----------------Brawler, Pikeman, Fencer, chilastra
"KD+Dizzy = fun!"-----------------------------------"Wacking with sticks"

V3g3tto
Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:24 pm
#11

**edit** is TC?








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V3g3tto
Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:27 pm
#12

oh wait i get it,.... well come on!! the thread said nothing about this being JUST no the test centre, in fact, the test centre hasnt been mentioned at all!


So i guess they fixed it in patch eh? well good, but im annoyed it doesnt work atm, again i jsut did some pvp, and the only specials that worked at all were crippleshot, and Faa2 occasionally.







Vegetto|| Master Lager Hunter||" I drink, therefore i am..."


irSilentDeath
Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:14 pm
#13






rexrobinson wrote:





novamarine wrote:

I really think people are expecting too much from chargeshot2. I might be wrong, but KD just aren't what they used to be.







Well, hereare the 2 MAIN reason why so many MBH want Chargeshot 2,


#1 Of course the AoE Knockdown, Jedi usualy have protectors and this will help control them


#2 Underhand shot/Fire knockdown are Weak at best, "You have failed to knock down your target" comes up way more often with underhand/fire knockdown than it does with chargeshot 1 (I mastered carbineer on my first holo, and am a MBH now I can attest to this)


The carbineer Knockdowns are more reliable than the BH line knockdowns, if Full auto area 2 works after the patch, man a MBH 0304 Carbineer will be a force to reckon with.


most BH out there will tell you there favorite weapon of choice is the carbine













did you know that if you miss you get the same message about not being able to kd your target?


i think it comes down to which attack does more damage fkd or chargeshot2??? which ever has a higher damage multiplyer will have a more likley chance to kd a target......this was explianed in a old old post.


if chargeshot2 has a higher multiplyer then fkd i will drop the defences and take it up........infact ill just do all the combinations and see what i like best lol




St- Coldheart -

St-Jaggedheart Force-Assasin

MAIFA - Tarquinas

Looking For PoleArm Speed(looking for +13 to cap)
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