Carbineer Archive

I agree.

Single weapon loots suck.

Either make it a 5-use schem with limited runs (like the Geonosian Pistol), or just a 5-use schem that I can make as many as I like from (Enhanced E11 for example).

That, or just add a new weapon to the Weaponsmith list. I'd be happy with that one, actually.

Brilyn
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Main vendor on Naboo, Vagabond's Rest: -1850, 2330
Secondary vendor on Talus, Kyu'mai: 250, -4680
Starsider

I personally think it would be a waste of programming time. Nice thought but can I get a raise of hands on who actually uses this Carbine once you gain novice Carbineer? This gun should have been cold damage... not a clone of the DRX6.

Erok - Carbineer Extrodinaire
owning gIMP's since '03

Now if it was cold damage, rock on, fire up them schematics!

Erok - Carbineer Extrodinaire
owning gIMP's since '03

Pardon me for having an opinion......

You'll find a lot of Weaponsmiths have the same opinion, that weapon drops (uber or otherwise) area pain in the butt.

Most don't like the Schematic drops either.

As it is, as far as I'm concerned, Nym's slugthrower is a waste of space.

Clone of the DXR? Really? Go get yourself a Krayt DXR and compare........

Brilyn
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Main vendor on Naboo, Vagabond's Rest: -1850, 2330
Secondary vendor on Talus, Kyu'mai: 250, -4680
Starsider

Hi, how's it going.

I'm a weaponsmith.

Making a Krayt DXR is NOT a waste of tissue.

I just made one for myself this afternoon, and I'm pretty damn happy with it, thanks.

As for Geo, Geo what? Geonosian Pistol?

First, I've never even been offered the Schm for that.

Second, what the hell does that have to do with Carbines?

< whats wrong with drop schematics >

Everything.

How much work is required to get the DXR-6b Schematic? Little to none.

How much do I get charged for them? People usually want 100k and up for them. (people usually *get* about 20k for them, or they can keep them. (starsider))

Conversely, go wear flame-resistanct armour,and go ask that question on the Weaponsmith forum.......

Brilyn
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Main vendor on Naboo, Vagabond's Rest: -1850, 2330
Secondary vendor on Talus, Kyu'mai: 250, -4680
Starsider

You made fun of me for saying that a geonosian sonic blaster is better use of tissue than a dxr6 and that shouldn't be, and then said that this comparision shouldnt be on the forum then u go off and say loot schematics are bad from a wepon smith point of veiw because the current economy is messed up (that most defenitly shouldn't be on this forum as this has nothing to do with carbineers, and im deeply sorry no one sells u geo blaster schematics). If u would like to know im not a pure carbineer i got bh and just enough pistoleer to use the sonic blaser witch oddy enough dose more dmg then every carbine cept the laser.

Here is my reasoning why 5 tissues in a dxr6 is a waste A: u can make an e-11 and a laser with that Bsgs dont always work so its no better off in pvp than and elite C: krayt guns in a non pvp situation that with good tissue cost in the millions are not very economical (unless u have extra income from being a crafter or havin an alt crafter)

I'll end on this point how the hell would you know if a schematic for a gun would be a waste of space it there isnt one currently in use. If we look at the loot wepons in this game then compare them to crafted ones in general the crafted ones are a hell of alot better.

Hey, I'm not making fun, just being critical (and confirming you meant Sonic Pistols).

Basically, as a Carbineer, a Geo Sonic Pistol is about as useful to me as a T21.

So yeah, I think a Krayt DXR is worth the cost.

And it's not going to quite cost the millions that you think it will. If you can buy the Tissues yourself in an Auction, take them to a Weaponsmith you trust and he can make the DXR for ya.

< im deeply sorry no one sells u geo blaster schematics >

I'm not. They'd likely ask some sort of ridiculous price, like a million or something equally stupid.

< use the sonic blaser witch oddy enough dose more dmg then every carbine cept the laser.>

That would be down to the major flaw in the Resistance system.

< u can make an e-11 and a laser with that >

Which are both Energy weapons.

Go against something with Light armour and 60% Energy resists (or more) and you're in trouble.

Gurreck Forest Stalkers and Hanadak Rock Throwers on Endor are prime examples of why having an Acid-based backup carbine is a good idea.

< psgs dont always work so its no better off in pvp than and elite >

I'm betting that will be fixed (at some stage).

< krayt guns in a non pvp situation that with good tissue cost in the millions are not very economical >

The cost of the gun really depends on if you're just buying the gun, or if you're paying a WS to make it for ya.

If someone comes to me with a heap of Krayt Tissues and asks me to make a gun with them, I'm gonna ask *them* to set the price. I've had people pay me 50k *per* Stun Baton to make 2 Acklay Batons. All I said was "how much do you want to pay for me to do this?".

Granted, some Weaponsmiths just want to gouge you. Conversely, some people just want Krayt weapons made so they can get them sliced, and then sell them on. I'm more that just a sentient assembly line, so I'm going to want something for my trouble.

< unless u have extra income from being a crafter or havin an alt crafter >

I'm primarily a Weaponsmith, with Carbineer so I have something to do when I just can't face crafting for a day or so. I like to PvP from time to time (shows how little I've done it, eh? ), but haven't done it in a while.

Ironically I make more per hour running missions on Endor than I do as a Weaponsmith. Then again, some days someone buys 2 crates of Vibroknucklers.

< in general the crafted ones are a hell of alot better. >

In general, yes. I totally agree on this one.

However, there's a rule you can live your life by: people are stupid.

For example, I was told today that someone wasn't going to buy an LLC off my vendor, because he was offered a "fantastic 501-901, 4.9spdLLC, secondhand". My base LLCs are 756 max damage, 4.9spd. A 20% damage slice makes mine a better gun. He accepted this and bought the other gun. Apparently it was better because it was already sliced. Moron.

(no, I'm not bitter. Really. )

On that point, people will see the rare uber loot. The Exeptional gun. And I'll get /tell after /tell wanting a gun with those exact stats. Any explanation of "sorry, it's loot only" is met with "oh, you must be a crap weaponsmith then". And this is *one* of the reasons why loot drop weaponry sucks.

Rant over (for the moment, at least. )

Brilyn
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Main vendor on Naboo, Vagabond's Rest: -1850, 2330
Secondary vendor on Talus, Kyu'mai: 250, -4680
Starsider

thats a great Idea

It depends on the weapon.

For most weapons, that's a reasonble deal. For some (like the Enhanced E11, or the Featherweight FWG) I'd really only consider that for a friend, as I can normally run off 100 weapons per use of the schem.

Then there's weapons like the Executioner's Hack, that is a single use Schematic.

And the DE-10 and the Berserker Rifle that are not only Single use, but have a specific Barrel that needs using. At least with the Hack I can make 2, if I play around with Sword Cores.

Anyway, I don't really see the need for a 'new' weapon, just for the sake of a new weapon. A new damage type would be nice, or something else with AP2 would be cool also. But I'm pretty happy with the range of stuff we have at the moment.

Brilyn
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Main vendor on Naboo, Vagabond's Rest: -1850, 2330
Secondary vendor on Talus, Kyu'mai: 250, -4680
Starsider