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Now I dont wish to start any rumours as thats the last thing that this forum needs after waiting so long for some new shooters.

However seeing the pictures in the Friday feature set my mind racing about the damage types. Are we finally to receive the missing links of Kinetic and Blast damage types? Dont ask me I just die here....but it looks interesting.

I'm calling it out as:

Geonosian Carbine: No idea...never had anything to do with them except stare down the wrong end.

Alliance Needler Carbine: Shoots sharp projectiles at high velocity. Sounds kinetic to me!! Could be wrong.

Proton Carbine: Please, please, please let it be blast damage.

Total speculation but just so excited to see first glimpses of these awesome looking weapons and wondering what everyone else is drooling over and thinking with regards to the damage types.

I agree with your speculations on Porton and Needler. And I will also speculate that the Geo will do Stun Damage like Geo Pistol, perhaps? But only certain people really know, and they can't tell us yet.

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what type of damage to proton gernades do? thats probably what the proton carbine will be. as for needler probably kinetic or something else, and i'd assume stun for geo carbine, which is kinda a dissapointment, i'd rather cold or electricity

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well they will change all the weapons and armor too - so who knows???

Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Well... In my opinion, proton Carb must be blast... Proton Grenades are already Blast, so it would only make sense imo.

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Defining Basic Weapon Changes

To understand the basic armor types and functions, we need to look at some basic weapon changes.

In the combat upgrade we have decided to alter the interaction between weapons and armor to provide some interesting tactical choices. To accomplish this end we have added several new features to weapons and armor. The primary change seen in weapons is the removal of the armor piercing system and addition of an energy level setting on a player's weapon. This energy level plays a very significant role when used against the various armor types. Below is a new chart illustrating the new energy levels:


Energy Level Value
Mode
Mode 1 - Standard Damage
Mode 2 - Coherent Damage
Mode 3 - Focused Energy
Ranged Mode Type

Pulse-Wave
Coherent Bolts
Focused Beam
Melee Mode Type
Hand-to-Hand
Standard
Vibration
High Intensity

Weapons all have an energy level value and we will enable the players the ability to change this value for certain weapons on the fly. To provide different weapons with different utility certain weapons will have a mode switching option. While some weapons will have mode options many will remain single mode of fire weapons. The goal is to avoid a "one best type" of weapon or armor from evolving. The mechanism to change the value will be through a radial menu option while weapon is unequipped. The terminology is slightly different on melee weapons yet the game play model will remain the same. For example a focus beam which is designed to punch through assault type armors will share the same benefits as a melee vibro weapon set to high intensity versus assault type armor. Both are designed to puncture assault armors. Basic Hand to Hand damage when not wielding a weapon at all is slightly different from the other 3 modes in that it will have no inherent advantage or disadvantage versus armor.

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Armor Stats

The old armor system is comprised of Special Protections, Protections and Vulnerabilities. We have altered the names and meaning of them in the Combat Upgrade. We felt it was definitely necessary to rework the system based on knowledge and experience gained from working with the old system.

The damage mitigation stats on armor are being changed completely in the combat upgrade. While the names of the stats will remain the same, we have devised a new number range and backend meaning. The new types are General Protection and Specific Protections. General protection will range from 0 to 6,000. The general protection of armor will be the baseline stat that reflects how much absorption armor can take against all incoming damage. The Specific Protections will be broken out into familiar damage types of kinetic, acid, heat and so on that ranges from -1200 to +1200. The sum of the general protection and specific protection will provide final damage protection of your armor. For an example, armor with 5320 general protection and 300 acid protection would have a total protection of 5620 vs. acid.

How exact amount of damage mitigation that provided at each protection amount is something that will be looked at very closely in our Combat Upgrade testing. Based on these initial numbers, however, one can see that most of armor's protective value will be made up by general protection, while the specific protection portion will provide about 20% of the armor's value.

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Please keep all this in mind when dreaming about what Damage Types the new Carbines will have......in the new system having "stun" and "blast" and "kinetic" won't mean what it does today. A common phrase from the CU is, "Remember to Forget"

Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

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Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Very interesting indeed. Thanks for posting that and letting us know whats happening. With that in mind this post is irrelevant in some ways and there is much to consider for the future.